Skyfurnace

I'm sorry, but you can't judge someone of another religion by the standards of your own. That's very similar to ethnocentrism, and frankly, it's sickening.

You're basically saying that everyone on earth excluding those of the Christain faith will face eternity in hell when they die. Don't you think that's just a little shortsighted? What about all of the other religions? You're struting around calling everyone sinners and telling them that God will judge them for their lack of faith. Is this how Christians motivate others to join their "religion?" By scaring them all with visions of firey torment? What virtues you withhold...

Thus far, you have not backed up any of your claims with substantial evidence. You said that Jesus supposedly "died so [we] could live." How do you know that? Well I'll tell you right now. Someone else told you. God didn't look you in the eye and tell you to believe in him, just as you didn't see Jesus die and rise from the dead for us. It was all merely documented by people who probably had very suggestible judgement. It is very easy that through a few thousand years, "Jesus was crucified" could turn into "Jesus was crucified, rose from the dead, healed people blah blah blah."

Until you can truthfully say that there is a God, and that he will send you to hell if you do not have faith in him, you're just blindly following a fairy tale. It's nice to have all of the answers, isn't it? But perhaps you ought to learn to respect other people's beliefs before making such arbitrary posts. God only exists to you because someone, long ago, said that he existed without any evidence to back up the claim. Do you also believe in goblins, dragons, and Harry Potter? Because without any evidence, it's no different than having faith in "God."

Peace be with you, and I'll wave to you from hell.

Magus55

spiritual separation. The fellowship between the Creator and the created is broken.

Magus55

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Mat 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Why can't Christianity judge another religion? If Christianity turns out to be right, then every other religion will be judged by the Christian God, because they fall into the category of ALL in Rom 3:23. And no, its not shortsighted. Most of the world follows the wide and easy path, while Christians follow the narrow one. Who said it was easy to follow the narrow path? Most people just choose to take the easy way out, and that way leads to destruction.


Well if we go by that logic, humans know absolutely nothing for fact. How do you know any historical figure existed? Because you read it in a history book or were told by a teacher in school. How do you know fossils are dated correctly? Did you physically date them yourself, or did a scientist tell you what the date was? The Apostles had no reason to lie about what they saw, and they ended up dying for it. Why shouldn't I trust them? You trust what people tell you on a daily basis.

I can truthfully say God exists. Hes made His existence real to me, as well as tons of other people. Can I prove it to you? No, but that doesn't mean i'm not being truthful.

And why should I respect other religions? To me, they are false works of Satan to lead people from God. They fit into the wide and easy path of salvation. If the Christian God exists, then no other religion is correct. Since i'm confident that the Christian God does exist, all other religions to me are false.

No, I don't believe in dragons, or goblins - why? Because they have never shown themselves to me, or offered me eternal life. God has. Why don't I believe in Harry potter? Because we know for a fact ( well at least thats what people tell us , that JK Rowling wrote Harry Potter as a fictional book, and didn't intend it to be a real, supernatural account. JK Rowling also doesn't believe the characters in her book are real, and she didn't give her life to support the events in the book.

Skyfurnace

So, what are you going to do if Christianity DOESN'T turn out to be right? What if it's Islam? Or Buddhism? Or even Judaism? What then will you do? It seems to me that you are much to confident in Christianity, when in fact, Christianity has done nothing to earn your confidence.

How do I know historical figures existed? Photographs and films. How do I know dinosaurs existed? Fossils and footprints. Do you see what I'm getting at? History books have a little something I like to call EVIDENCE. I don't ever recall seeing a photograph or Jesus Christ, and to this day no one even knows what God could possibly look like.

In Christianity, you're told that Jesus came back to life. Now, as far as I know, it is physically impossible for a human being to do so. However, it seems that in most religions, the word "logic" seems to simply be thrown out the window. Who needs logic, right?

I hate to break it to you, but no matter how much faith in God you have, that doesn't somehow make him exist. I think Denzel Washington put it best in Training Day: "It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."

That's probably the most close-minded and disgusting thing I've ever had to quote. You have no reason to be confident that the Christian religion is the correct one, other than your faith. And since you seem to be having a hard time understanding the difference between faith and fact, here's the definition:

Faith: Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

Obviously, instead of opening to your mind to the rest of the world, you've simply swallowed the first thing you were told and accepted it as truth (again, without any evidence of it being true). Something interesting that you should think about is seeing from the perspective of other religions. Through the eyes of a Christian, you see every other religion as being wrong. Through the eyes of a person from a different religion, you would see every other religion as being wrong. Do you see what I'm saying? Everyone thinks they're right, and everyone else is just plain evil and deserves no respect.

An atheist member of this board said something interesting recently. He said that, what if a person lived their entire life withholding the utmost morality and never committing a single act of atrocity. However, this person did not believe in God. According to Christianity, this person would be sent to hell despite their vigilance to leading a decent life. Which means that even if I end up as a good person, I never followed the rules of Christianity (apparently the ONLY right religion, and everyone else is simply delusional), I'll spend eternity in hell. Your beliefs contradict those of Christianity, therefore, you go to hell. What a wonderful and rightful concept.

When exactly did God present himself to you, looked you in the eye, and told you he existed? When did he offer you eternal life? What is stopping me from thinking that all of this was materialized in your head, considering that you have absolutely no evidence to back up your claims?

The thing I dislike about the major religions is this: They require too much faith. What's nice about agnosticism is that I accept that I don't know all of the answers, and I'm satisfied with that. It apparent to me that religion itself was merely created to fill in all of the gaps in our existence. Instead, I've left them wide open to anything.

User

This is why Christianity can be harmful.

Magus, you're openly saying that you have no reason to respect others religions? Then why should I respect your religion? Why should any non-Christian respect it?

We need tolerance. Voltaire once wrote that the only reason people from all different denominations can exist together in peace is because of mutual respect and the guranteed right of every man to believe what he wants whether the other agrees or not. This is the only thing that stops us from tearing each other apart and living like wild animals.

winstonjen

Tell him to hurry the hell up. I'm sick and tired of living in the same plane of existence as fundies.