Toto

sdelsolray's post was a little off topic, but yours took it to a new level.

Please deal with this: Do you actually think that the analogy of the bridegroom excuses Jesus' absence?

arnoldo

Within an ancient jewish context yes, in our modern context, no, since it is bizarre to think that a groom would leave his bride. However, I was merely trying to demonstrate the cultural context of the saying "no man know the day or hour" in terms of this ancient jewish custom which you find ridiculous. This saying "no man knows the day or hour" also needs to be taken into context within the jewish festival of Rosh HaShannah which you will also probably find worthy of ridicule. Within an ancient jewish context Rosh HaShannah was known as the hidden day.

Toto

You are totally out of line in assuming that I would ridicule the Jewish Festival of Rosh HaShannah, or that I have ridiculed the ancient Jewish marriage rites.

In an ancient Jewish context, what would you think of a bridegroom who spent 2000 years getting the bridal chamber ready, leaving his bride in the lurch, wondering where he was? I don't see how this either explains the as yet unfulfilled prophecy or excuses it.

In fact, since marriage and procreation are somewhat time limited, I think that such a bridegroom would have failed at his basic mission.

arnoldo

My bad.
Probably that the bride got stood up and should give up waiting.
True many people wonder where He is or even if it's just a myth. Many people didn't understand Yeshua's parables either.
It's not an excuse.
Right, the language is metaphorical/allegorical and yet you somehow want to make it literal. Remeber the trouble Nicodemus had undestanding the figurtive language Yeshua used when he stated "Ye must be born again"?

Toto

You say its metaphorical language, but your friend sugarhitman thinks that he can predict the timing of the end of the world by reading the Bible.

OK, so it's a metaphor. What does it refer to? What deeper meaning does the allegory represent?

Is the modern church a jilted bride who just won't get over it?

arnoldo

Geesh, first of all the world is not going to end (read up on the millenium), second of all you are bearing false witness since I don't recall sugarhitman stating the world's going to end on a set date such as June 6, 2012.
There are entire books on the subject, I can't answer that question in a sentence or even several paragraphs. Check out this source: WHO IS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST?

In the OT Israel was at times called a harlot for going after other gods. At times, some (not all) of the modern church is worse than that.

BTW: Today(3-21-08) is Purim

stipe

Yes he was. But God changed the plan so things didn't pan out the way Jesus said.