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Old 09-01-2004, 12:04 AM   #31
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No, I don't blame anyone and if anything I would forgive them for they do not know what they are doing (and this includes Bush).

Sounds like something for a political forum (rather than a Biblical forum) to me.
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The "thou shalt not kill" is a smokescreen .....
Are all ten of the commandments 'smokescreens'?
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FYI, I do not kill any meat I eat, as it is already in the store for me to purchase.
If this statement is meant to mean anything other than 'I live in the middle of a large town', then isn't there a word for this sort of statement? Special Pleading or something? Kind of like saying 'I'm not a pedophile as the photos were already taken'.

I'm not sure that morally there is much difference between killing something yourself and (directly or indirectly) paying the wages of the person who did kill it. Except that one allows you to play the hypocrite.

Personally, I feel it is wrong to eat anything that you are not personally prepared to kill. I have killed, and helped to kill, things for food. Fortunately - as I don't enjoy killing animals (except for ticks, I like how they go crack/pop) - I have not killed a cow (the biggest I have helped with was a goat) but I would not eat beef unless I was sure that I could pull the trigger or flip the switch if I needed to.

I am pretty sure that I would be unable to slit the throat of an crated and upturned cow (a la halal meat). Consequently, I will not eat halal meat.

Likewise for religion: I would not worship a God that expected anybody to sacrifice their daughter to him unless I, myself, was prepared to sacrifice my daughter.

I'm not sure if God sacrificing himself to himself counts, as I consider being able to kill yourself and yet still be alive as cheating somehow.

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Are all ten of the commandments 'smokescreens'?
It is obvious that it belongs there but it sure is not the same as those sins that go directly against the nature of social humans. I should add here that the redeemed man is a solitary individual who is neither social nor asocial but non-social just as he is not rational nor irrational but non-rational = no soul = intuitionist.

The entire concept sin is an illusion but with a purpose and that purpose is the redemption of our prior nature that can only come about through the total exhaustion of the ego consciusness, which itself is the illusion and therefore temporal.
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Sounds like something for a political forum (rather than a Biblical forum) to me.
Do you really think that I want to change the world? I am just happy if I can make you think twice.
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Do you really think that I want to change the world? I am just happy if I can make you think twice.

About what? Your opinions? "Make?"
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About what? Your opinions? "Make?"
And I'll be just as happy if you don't!
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And I'll be just as happy if you don't!
Yeah, the above-quoted sentence would definitely be necessary, seeing how you're last post said "I am just (implied "only" there) happy if I can make you think twice."
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Yeah, the above-quoted sentence would definitely be necessary, seeing how you're last post said "I am just (implied "only" there) happy if I can make you think twice."
. . . because I also know that you can afford to think twice.
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Let's keep the posts on topic or at least relevant to BC&H, please.
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