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Old 02-29-2004, 02:30 AM   #21
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True enough. It has been said that believers and non-believers won't actually convince each other of anything. I wonder how many people who sit on the fence actually become converted to Christianity because of this course.
Of the five or so nonChristians who started the class, one of them converted to Christianity.

That was about four years ago. We are still in touch with her and she remains a practicing Christian.

I have no idea if that ration is anything like Alpha as a whole.
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btw why do people call "Jesus" "Jeebus" around here?
To be as insulting as possible to the faith of Christians I would suspect.
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I attended an Alpha course here mid way thru last year.

I was alittle disappointed at how many very mature Christians there were at the course. I'm sure that the idea was to create an environment where new comers could get an experience of this particular church as a community as much as it was for explaining the Christian message, or so it seemed to me.

I was not particularly impressed with the content of the video's (Nicky Gumbel) nor the way the open discussions went afterwards. None of the people there were very well equiped to answer my questions and often the discussions were kind of hijacked by the more mature christians with spools of religious anecdotes, you know the type I mean.

I also started visiting this website around the same time as this course finished and I'm glad how so many of my questions were answered here when they couldn't be there.

I found it hard to be disagreeable with people who were so nice to me. They were pleasant and polite and I felt I was insulting them a bit sometimes with my questions so I didn't ask them on occasion. This really didn't help. And its also hard to attach the word ignorant to people who are so nice. The word just doesn't seem to be applicable to these people although I'm sure it is.


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Actually, no matter how someone tries to dress up faith as laudatory and enobling, it merely involves belief in something for which you have no evidence. The is the problem. As people find contrary evidence, the faith becomes wrong. Only the deluded, willfully ignorant, or in crisis maintain belief in something they know is wrong.

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Simiangrunt,

The word "Jeebus" came from the "Simpsons" on TV and they deserve the credit for coinage of the term.

Yeah, it is a bit insulting but there are far worse words.
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Simiangrunt,

The word "Jeebus" came from the "Simpsons" on TV and they deserve the credit for coinage of the term.

Yeah, it is a bit insulting but there are far worse words.
I watched Futurama on Mars last night, he he!


Oh Yeah, Ex OvO Omnia That gave me Alpha 1 so I passed that with flying colours.


They are so far behind; Because I finished the Omega course at 21.
Poor little Zeros, but that's what its about; 'Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaves, we will all be counting; bringing in the sheaves. OrganMeister Next!!!!!!!!
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I watched Futurama on Mars last night, he he!


Oh Yeah, Ex OvO Omnia That gave me Alpha 1 so I passed that with flying colours.


They are so far behind; Because I finished the Omega course at 21.
Poor little Zeros, but that's what its about; 'Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaves, we will all be counting; bringing in the sheaves. OrganMeister Next!!!!!!!!
What the hey?

Alpha originated in England and has infected the USA. I would like to send the Alpha mental antigen back to England.

"Activate transporter!" Beam!
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Isn't faith something that requires one to keep it, in light of contrary evidence or at the minimum, attacks towards the faith?
In Catholicism faith is a gift of God. If we have to keep it up it will never bare fruit like a barren fig tree. It's like love, if we have to love each other it is called flattery.
 
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Simian

Im actually half way through an Alpha course at the moment.

Very interesting experience!

Id be happy to discuss any specifics you may wish to know.

PM me or post any questions.



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What the hey?

Alpha originated in England and has infected the USA. I would like to send the Alpha mental antigen back to England.

"Activate transporter!" Beam!
'Ouch, I felt that, my suppository just exploded, oooh!

Maybe that was, why they gave me a wide berth!!!

I've actually collected about twenty of their bee...oh sorry placemats. Got a nice lickle sticker on the bottom too.

Yeah its our problem; hand s across the sea and a bit of toilet paper too.

I'll keep an eye on these dirty infiltrators. Thanks for reminding me.
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