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And again in the story of John at the end of Quis Dives Salvetur:
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Here are all the ancient references to Romans 8:29 which seems to be at the heart of the earliest reference to the term 'adelphopoiesis' in Athanasius Against the Arians 2.
Clemens Alexandrinus (4 work(s)) Clemens Alexandrinus Excerpta e Theodoto (2) Date: ca.190 - ca.215 Genre: Varia Theme: Gnosticism Clavis: 1139 Biblio: SAGNARD F., SC 23 (1948). 27 § 5 (p.116, l.11) BP1 The priest on entering within the second veil removed the plate at the altar of incense, and entered himself in silence with the Name engraved upon his heart, indicating the laying aside of the body which has become pure like the golden plate and bright through purification. . . the putting away as it were of the soul's body on which was stamped the lustre of piety, by which he was recognized by the Principalities and Powers as, having put on the Name. Now he discards this body, the plate which had become light, within the second veil, that is, in the rational sphere the second complete veil of the universe, at the altar of incense, that is, with the angels who are the ministers of prayers carried aloft. Now the soul, stripped by the power of him who has knowledge, as if it had become a body of the power, passes into the spiritual realm and becomes now truly rational and high priestly, so that it might now be animated, so to speak, directly by the Logos, just as the archangels became the high-priests of the angels, and the First-Created the high- priests of the archangels. But where is there a right judgment of Scripture and doctrine for that soul which has become pure, and where is it granted to see God "face to face"? Thus, having transcended the angelic teaching and the Name taught in Scripture, it comes to the knowledge and comprehension of the facts. It is no longer a bride but has become a Logos and rests with the bridegroom together with the First-Called and First- Created, who are friends by love, sons by instruction and obedi ence, and brothers by community of origin. So that it belonged to the dispensation to wear the plate and to continue the pur suit of knowledge, but the work of power was that man becomes the bearer of God, being controlled directly by the Lord and becoming, as it were, his body. 33 § 1 (p.130, l.6 - *) BP1 Indeed Christ became an adopted son as he became "elect" among the completed beings and "First-Born" of things there. Now this doctrine is a misunderstanding of ours which holds that the Saviour is the first-born from the "underlying reality" and he is,as it were, our root and head, and the Church is his fruits. They say that when Christ fled that which was foreign to him and was drawn into the Pleroma, after he had been be gotten from his mother's thought, the Mother again produced the ruler of the dispensation as a type of him who had deserted her, according to her desire for him, in that he was better, for he was a type of the Father of the universe. Therefore, he was made less, as if he was created from the passion of desire. In deed in view of his harshness, she was disgusted, as they say. Paedagogus (2) Date: ca.190 - ca.215 Genre: Treatise Theme: Christian life Clavis: 1376 Biblio: STAEHLIN O., 2e éd., GCS 12 (1936), 89-292. 1 27 § 2 (p.106, l.11) BP1 3 20 § 5 (p.248, l.20) BP1 Protrepticus (1) Date: ca.190 - ca.215 Genre: Undetermined Theme: Faith Clavis: 1375 Biblio: MONDESERT C., PLASSART A., 2e éd., SC 2 (1949). 82 § 7 (p.150, l.11) BP1 Stromata (1) Date: ca.190 - ca.215 Genre: Treatise Theme: Faith and Christian Reflection Clavis: 1377 Biblio: STAEHLIN O., FRUECHTEL L., 3e éd., GCS 52 (1960) pour les livres 1-6 ; STAEHLIN O., FRUECHTEL L., TREU U., 2e éd., GCS 17 (1970), 3-102 pour les livres 7-8. 7 37 § 5 (p.29, l.11) BP1 Origenes (?) (2 work(s)) Origenes (?) Fragmenta e catenis in Psalmos (1) Date: ca.201 - ca.300 Genre: Fragment Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1426 Biblio: PG 12 (1862), passim 1097-1685. (p.1452 - <) BP3 Fragmenta e catenis in Psalmos B (1) Date: ca.201 - ca.300 Genre: Fragment Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1426 Biblio: PITRA J.B., Analecta sacra, 2, Tusculanis 1884, passim 444-483. (p.476, l.15) BP3 Acta Thomae 1' (2) Date: ca.201 - ca.300 Genre: Acts Theme: Apocrypha Clavis: 245 Biblio: § 48 (p.164, l.15) BP2 § 60 (p.177, l.7) BP2 Clemens Romanus (Ps.) (1 work(s)) Clemens Romanus (Ps.) Ad uirgines epistulae duae (1) Date: ca.201 - ca.300 Genre: Letter Theme: Christian life Clavis: 1004 Biblio: FUNK F.X., DIEKAMP F., Patres Apostolici, 2, 3 éd., Tubingae 1913, 1-49. 1 7 § 1 (p.11, l.21 - )) BP2 Hippolytus Romanus (?) Refutatio omnium haeresium (1) Date: ca.220 - ca.250 Genre: Treatise Theme: Heresy Clavis: 1899 Biblio: WENDLAND P., GCS 26 (1916). 10 33 § 2 (p.289, l.9 - >) BP2 Origenes (3 work(s)) Origenes Commentarii in Matthaeum (fragmenta) (1) Date: ca.222 - ca.252 Genre: Fragment Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1450 Biblio: KLOSTERMANN E., BENZ E., GCS 41,1 (1941), passim 13-235. 419 (p.175, l.2 - /) BP3 Fragmenta e catenis in Epistulam primam ad Corinthios (1) Date: ca.222 - ca.252 Genre: Fragment Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1458 Biblio: JENKINS C., Origen on 1 Corinthians, Journal of Theological Studies 9 (1908), 232-247 ; 353-372 ; 500-514. 29 (p.370, l.13) BP3 Fragmenta e catenis in Romanos (1) Date: ca.222 - ca.252 Genre: Fragment Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1457 Biblio: STAAB K., Neue Fragmente aus dem Kommentar des Origenes zum Römerbrief, Biblische Zeitschrift 18 (1929), 74-82. 3 (p.76, l.16) BP3 Commentarii in Iohannem Date: ca.231 - ca.248 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1453 Biblio: PREUSCHEN E., GCS 10 (1903), 3-480 ; 562-563. 1 § 59 (p.15, l.12 - >) BP3 De oratione (2) Date: ca.234 - ca.235 Genre: Treatise Theme: Faith and Christian Reflection Clavis: 1477 Biblio: KOETSCHAU P., GCS 3 (1899), 297-403. 5 § 5 (p.310, l.20 - < >) BP3 29 § 19 (p.393, l.2) BP3 Homiliae in Ieremiam (gr.) (1) Date: ca.239 - ca.242 Genre: Homily Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1438 Biblio: HUSSON P., NAUTIN P., SC 232 (1976) : homélies 1-11 ; SC 238 (1977) : homélies 12-20.39. 15 6 (p.126, l.25) BP3 Commentarii in Matthaeum, libri X-XVII (5) Date: ca.248 - ca.249 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1450 Biblio: KLOSTERMANN E., BENZ E., GCS 40 (1935). 12 20 (p.114, l.11 - /) BP3 12 29 (p.133, l.6) BP3 13 27 (p.254, l.21 - >) BP3 14 8 (p.293, l.21) BP3 17 4 (p.587, l.30 - )) BP3 Commentarii in Matthaeum, libri XII-XIII (lat.) (1) Date: ca.248 - ca.249 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 1450 Biblio: KLOSTERMANN E., BENZ E., GCS 38 (1933). 81 (p.193, l.32 - <) BP3 Eusebius Caesariensis Commentarii in Psalmos (PG 23) (1) Date: ca.300 - ca.339 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 3467 Biblio: PG 23 (1857), passim 76-1393. (p.525) BP4 Commentarii in Psalmos (PG 23) (1) Date: ca.300 - ca.339 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 3467 Biblio: PG 23 (1857), passim 76-1393. (p.525) BP4 Athanasius Alexandrinus (1 work(s)) Athanasius Alexandrinus Orationes contra Arianos (5) Date: ca.339 - ca.362 Genre: Treatise Theme: Dogma Clavis: 2093 Biblio: PG 26, 12-468. 2 § 61 (p.277) BPH 2 § 62 (p.280) BPH 2 § 63 (p.281 - <) BPH 2 § 64 (p.284) BPH 2 § 75 (p.305) BPH Cyrillus Hierosolymitanus (?) Mystagogiae 1-5 (1) Date: ca.348 - ca.399 Genre: Catechesis Theme: Pastoral Clavis: 3586 Biblio: PIEDAGNEL A., PARIS P., SC 126 (1966). 3 § 1 (p.120, l.2) BP4 Didymus Alexandrinus (5 work(s)) Commentarii in Psalmos 20-21 (2) Date: ca.350 - ca.398 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 2550 Biblio: DOUTRELEAU L., GESCHE A., GRONEWALD M., Didymos der Blinde, Psalmenkommentar (Tura-Papyrus), 1, Kommentar zu Psalm 20-21 (Papyrologische Texte und Abhandlungen 7), Bonn 1969. 45 § 12 (p.182, l.12 - <) BP7 45 § 18 (p.184, l.18 - <) BP7 Commentarii in Psalmos 22-26,10 (1) Date: ca.350 - ca.398 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 2550 Biblio: GRONEWALD M., Didymos der Blinde, Psalmenkommentar (Tura-Papyrus), 2, Kommentar zu Psalm 22-26,10 (Papyrologische Texte und Abhandlungen 4), Bonn 1968. 91 § 20 (p.150, l.20 - <) BP7 Fragmenta in Epistulam secundam ad Corinthios in catenis (1) Date: ca.350 - ca.398 Genre: Catena Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 2560 Biblio: STAAB K., Pauluskommentare aus der griechischen Kirche aus Katenenhandschriften gesammelt, Münster 1933, 14-44. (p.19, l.6 - /) BP7 Fragmenta in Psalmos (1) (2) Date: ca.350 - ca.398 Genre: Catena Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 2551 Biblio: MUHLENBERG E., Psalmenkommentare aus der Katenenüberlieferung, 1 (Patristische Texte und Studien 15), Berlin - New York 1975, 121-375. § 265 (p.263, l.13) BP7 § 395 (p.314, l.6) BP7 Fragmenta in Psalmos (2) (1) Date: ca.350 - ca.398 Genre: Catena Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 2551 Biblio: MUHLENBERG E., Psalmenkommentare aus der Katenenüberlieferung, 2 (Patristische Texte und Studien 16), Berlin - New York 1977. § 1227 (p.334, l.12 - <) BP7 (?) De trinitate (PG) (9) Date: ca.350 - ca.450 Genre: Treatise Theme: Theology Clavis: 2570 Biblio: PG 39 (1858), 600-992. 2 12 (p.668 - <) BP7 2 12 (p.681 - <) BP7 3 3 (p.828) BP7 3 4 (p.836 - <) BP7 3 4 (p.837 - <) BP7 3 4 (p.837 - /) BP7 3 4 (p.840) BP7 3 12 (p.860) BP7 3 21 (p.901 - <) BP7 Basilius Caesariensis (?) (1 work(s)) Basilius Caesariensis (?) Contra Eunomium (4) Date: ca.351 - ca.400 Genre: Treatise Theme: Theology Clavis: 2837 Biblio: PG 29, 672-768. 4 (p.704 - <) BP5 5 (p.724 - <) BP5 5 (p.725) BP5 5 (p.753) BP5 Gregorius Nyssenus (?) (1 work(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus (?) Fragmenta in Novum Testamentum (3) Date: ca.351 - ca.400 Genre: Fragment Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 3204 Biblio: CRAMER J.A., Catenae graecorum Patrum in Novum Testamentum, 4, Oxford 1844 (Hildesheim 1967), 271,15-23 ; 271,25-272,2 ; 272,4-8 ; 272,12-274,16. (p.271, l.27 - <) BP5 (p.272, l.28 - <) BP5 (p.273, l.20) BP5 358 (1 pole(s)) Alexandria (1 ancient author(s)) Athanasius Alexandrinus (1 work(s)) Athanasius Alexandrinus Epistulae ad Serapionem (2) Date: ca.358 - ca.360 Genre: Epistle Theme: Theology Clavis: 2094 Biblio: 1 § 24 (p.588 - <) BPH 4 § 3 (p.641 - <) BPH 360 (2 pole(s)) Gaul (1 ancient author(s)) Hilarius Pictauiensis (1 work(s)) Hilarius Pictauiensis Tractatus super psalmos I - XCI (1) Date: ca.360 - ca.367 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 428 Biblio: ZINGERLE A., CSEL 22 (1891), 3-354 ; 544-870. 67 § 10 (p.285, l.12 - <) BP6 Italy (1 ancient author(s)) Ambrosiaster (Ps.) (1 work(s)) Ambrosiaster (Ps.) De Trinitate et Incarnatione seu Fides Isatis (2) Date: ca.360 - ca.400 Genre: Treatise Theme: Theology Clavis: 189 Biblio: HOSTE A., CCL 9 (1957), 335-343. (p.342, l.182) BPH (p.343, l.190) BPH 362 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Gregorius Nazianzenus (1 work(s)) Gregorius Nazianzenus Orationes 6-19 (1) Date: ca.362 - ca.390 Genre: Discourse Theme: Pastoral Clavis: 3010 Biblio: PG 35, 721-1064. 14 § 2 (p.860) BP5 363 (1 pole(s)) Italy (1 ancient author(s)) Ambrosiaster (3 work(s)) Ambrosiaster Commentarius in epistulas Paulinas C (1) Date: ca.363 - ca.384 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 184 Biblio: VOGELS H.I., CSEL 81,3 (1969). (p.73, l.4 - <) BP6 Commentarius in xiii epistulas Paulinas A (2) Date: ca.363 - ca.384 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 184 Biblio: VOGELS H.I., CSEL 81,1 (1966). (p.290, l.1 - <) BP6 (p.292, l.3) BP6 Quaestiones Veteris et Noui Testamenti (numero CXXVII) (1) Date: ca.363 - ca.390 Genre: Treatise Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 185 Biblio: SOUTER A., CSEL 50 (1908), 3-416. 106 § 19 (p.245, l.17 - <) BP6 364 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Basilius Caesariensis (1 work(s)) Basilius Caesariensis Aduersus Eunomium libri II-III (1) Date: ca.364 - ca.364 Genre: Treatise Theme: Apologetics Clavis: 2837 Biblio: SESBOUE R., DURAND G.-M. de, DOUTRELEAU L., SC 305 (1983), 10-174. 2 § 23 (p.94, l.34) BP5 367 (1 pole(s)) Palestine and Cyprus (1 ancient author(s)) Epiphanius Constantiensis (Salamiensis, Cypriota) (1 work(s)) Epiphanius Constantiensis (Salamiensis, Cypriota) Tractatus contra eos qui imagines faciunt (1) Date: ca.367 - ca.394 Genre: Controversy Theme: iconoclasm Clavis: 3749 Biblio: OSTROGORSKY G., Studien zur Geschichte des byzantinischen Bilderstreites (Historische Untersuchungen 5), Breslau 1929, 68-71. (p.69, l.13) BP4 371 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Basilius Caesariensis (1 work(s)) Basilius Caesariensis De baptismo (1) Date: ca.371 - ca.375 Genre: Treatise Theme: Pastoral Clavis: 2896 Biblio: DUCATILLON J., NERI U., SC 357 (1989). 1 2 § 23 (p.176, l.23 - <) BP5 372 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus (3 work(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus De perfectione christiana ad Olympium monachum (5) Date: ca.372 - ca.378 Genre: Letter/Treatise Theme: Eastern Spirituality Clavis: 3164 Biblio: JAEGER W., Gregorii Nysseni opera, 8,1, Opera ascetica, Leiden 1952, 173-214. (p.176, l.4) BP5 (p.200, l.5 - <) BP5 (p.201, l.15 - <) BP5 (p.203, l.10) BP5 (p.204, l.15) BP5 De tridui inter mortem et resurrectionem domini nostri Iesu Christi spatio (uulgo In Christi resurrectionem i) (1) Date: ca.372 - ca.394 Genre: Homily Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 3175 Biblio: GEBHARDT E., Gregorii Nysseni opera, 9, Sermones, Leiden 1967, 273-306. (p.305, l.16 - <) BP5 Orationes uiii de beatitudinibus (1) Date: ca.372 - ca.394 Genre: Homily Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 3161 Biblio: PG 44, 1193-1301. 8 (p.1296 - < )) BP5 375 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Basilius Caesariensis (1 work(s)) Basilius Caesariensis De Spiritu sancto (1) Date: ca.375 - ca.375 Genre: Treatise Theme: Dogma Clavis: 2839 Biblio: PRUCHE B., 2e éd., SC 17 (1968). 26 § 61 (p.466, l.11) BP5 377 (2 pole(s)) Italy (1 ancient author(s)) Ambrosius Mediolanensis (1 work(s)) Ambrosius Mediolanensis De fide ad Gratianum (1) Date: ca.377 - ca.380 Genre: Treatise Theme: Christian life Clavis: 150 Biblio: FALLER O., CSEL 78 (1962). 5 6 § 83 (p.247, l.100 - <) BP6 Palestine and Cyprus (1 ancient author(s)) Epiphanius Constantiensis (Salamiensis, Cypriota) (1 work(s)) Epiphanius Constantiensis (Salamiensis, Cypriota) Panarion 65-80 (1) Date: ca.377 - ca.377 Genre: Treatise Theme: Heresy Clavis: 3745 Biblio: HOLL K., GCS 37 (1933), 2-229 ; 232-414 ; 416-526. 78 21 § 2 (p.471, l.13) BP4 379 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (2 ancient author(s)) Gregorius Nazianzenus (1 work(s)) Gregorius Nazianzenus Orationes 38-41 (1) Date: ca.379 - ca.381 Genre: Discourse Theme: Catechesis Clavis: 3010 Biblio: MORESCHINI C., GALLAY P., SC 358 (1990). 40 § 2 (p.200, l.15) BP5 Gregorius Nyssenus (1 work(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus Contra Eunomium III (5) Date: ca.379 - ca.383 Genre: Treatise Theme: Dogma Clavis: 3135 Biblio: JAEGER W., Gregorii Nysseni opera, 2, 2e éd., Leiden 1960, 3-311. 3 2 § 45 (p.67, l.8 - <) BP5 3 2 § 48 (p.68, l.4) BP5 3 2 § 50 (p.68, l.27) BP5 3 2 § 50 (p.69, l.3) BP5 3 2 § 55 (p.70, l.22) BP5 381 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Gregorius Nazianzenus (1 work(s)) Gregorius Nazianzenus Carmen moralium 29 (Adversus mulieres se nimis ornantes) (1) Date: ca.381 - ca.390 Genre: Poetry Theme: Pastoral Clavis: 3034 Biblio: KNECHT A., Gregor von Nazianz, Gegen die Putzsucht der Frauen, Heidelberg 1972. (p.24, l.125) BP5 383 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus (1 work(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus Refutatio confessionis Eunomii (3) Date: ca.383 - ca.383 Genre: Controversy Theme: Theology Clavis: 3136 Biblio: JAEGER W., Gregorii Nysseni opera, 2, Leiden 1960, 312-410. § 79 (p.344, l.23) BP5 § 80 (p.345, l.6) BP5 § 84 (p.347, l.2) BP5 386 (1 pole(s)) Antioch, Syria (1 ancient author(s)) Iohannes Chrysostomus (4 work(s)) Iohannes Chrysostomus De statuis ad populum Antiochenum homilia 21 catechesis titulata (1) Date: ca.386 - ca.387 Genre: Homily Theme: Pastoral Clavis: 4464 Biblio: PG 49, 231-240. (p.233, l.45 - <) BPH In Acta apostolorum homiliae 1-55 (1) Date: ca.386 - ca.403 Genre: Homily Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 4426 Biblio: PG 60 (1862) 13-384. 30 (p.224, l.22 - <) BPH In Epistulam ad Colossenses homiliae 1-12 (1) Date: ca.386 - ca.403 Genre: Homily Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 4433 Biblio: MIGNE J.-P., PG 62 (1862). 3 (p.319, l.15 - <) BPH In epistulam ad Titum homiliae 1-6 (1) Date: ca.386 - ca.403 Genre: Homily Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 4438 Biblio: MIGNE J.-P., PG 62 (1862). 1 (p.665, l.61 - <) BPH 387 (2 pole(s)) Alexandria (1 ancient author(s)) Didymus Alexandrinus (1 work(s)) Didymus Alexandrinus Commentarii in Zachariam (2) Date: ca.387 - ca.393 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 2549 Biblio: DOUTRELEAU L., SC 83 (1962) : livre 1 ; SC 84 (1962) : livres 2 et 3 ; SC 85 (1962) : livres 4 et 5. 2 103 (p.448, l.19 - <) BP7 2 173 (p.594, l.24 - <)) BP7 Italy (1 ancient author(s)) Ambrosius Mediolanensis (2 work(s)) Ambrosius Mediolanensis De fuga saeculi (1) Date: ca.387 - ca.394 Genre: Sermon Theme: Christian life Clavis: 133 Biblio: SCHENKL C., CSEL 32,2 (1897), 163-207. 3 § 14 (p.174, l.4) BP6 De Isaac uel anima (2) Date: ca.387 - ca.388 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 128 Biblio: SCHENKL C., CSEL 32,1 (1897), 641-700. 6 § 52 (p.676, l.12) BP6 8 § 79 (p.698, l.22 - )) BP6 391 (1 pole(s)) Greece, Minor Asia (1 ancient author(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus (1 work(s)) Gregorius Nyssenus In Canticum canticorum homiliae XV (3) Date: ca.391 - ca.394 Genre: Homily Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 3158 Biblio: LANGERBECK H., Gregorii Nysseni opera, 6, In Canticum canticorum, Leiden 1960. 1 (p.14, l.19 - /) BP5 13 (p.389, l.20) BP5 15 (p.439, l.17) BP5 420 (2 pole(s)) Antioch, Syria (1 ancient author(s)) Theodoretus episcopus Cyri (2 work(s)) Theodoretus episcopus Cyri Explanatio in Canticum Canticorum (1) Date: ca.420 - ca.460 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 6203 Biblio: PG 91, 28-213. (p.140) BPH Interpretatio in Esaiam (1) Date: ca.420 - ca.460 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 6204 Biblio: MOEHLE A., Theodoret von Kyros Kommentar zu Jesaia, Mitteilungen des Septuaginta Unternehmens 5, Berlin 1932. (p.101, l.10) BPH Greek historians (1 ancient author(s)) Theodoretus episcopus Cyri (2 work(s)) Theodoretus episcopus Cyri Explanatio in Canticum Canticorum (1) Date: ca.420 - ca.460 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 6203 Biblio: PG 91, 28-213. (p.140) BPH Interpretatio in Esaiam (1) Date: ca.420 - ca.460 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 6204 Biblio: MOEHLE A., Theodoret von Kyros Kommentar zu Jesaia, Mitteilungen des Septuaginta Unternehmens 5, Berlin 1932. (p.101, l.10) BPH 423 (2 pole(s)) Antioch, Syria (1 ancient author(s)) Theodoretus episcopus Cyri (1 work(s)) Theodoretus episcopus Cyri Interpretatio in epistulas Paulinas (3) Date: ca.423 - ca.460 Genre: Commentary Theme: Exegesis, Scripture Commentaries Clavis: 6209 Biblio: PG 82 (1864), 36-877. (p.141) BPH (p.160) BPH (p.617) BPH Greek historians (1 ancient author(s)) Theodoretus episcopus Cyri (1 work(s)) |
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Lots and lots of topics worth discussing at that link, but they are all offtopic, so I will refrain from elaborating, but just to mention a couple of the very interesting themes in this noteworthy document: Virginity, and constumes worn to signify same, applying logic to wearing various garments, according to both gender and stage of maturity; Passover, and dietary compliance with the law (continued prominence of Judaism in early Christianity); Abridged and delimited female role in society; Back to the topic at hand. I think the entire quote from Tertullian is worth repeating, here, to demonstrate the connection to Hebrews 13:2, a document widely suspected as having been authored in the late first century, but, upon what evidence, I know not: Quote:
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Christianity is about a brotherhood of man. Yet the concept is now completely watered down. Originally this was a 'mystical' brotherhood of man because each one of us who completed the Christian mystery initiation was himself made after the likeness of the Son of God. Here is the reference from Clement On the Virgins listed above:
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I understand that our only source on this subject of authorship of Hebrews, is derived from Eusebius, who simply repeats, in the early fourth century, that Paul was not the author. Does Clement himself, acknowledge authorship of Hebrews? Does the language of Clement (i.e. the Greek) resemble the language of Hebrews? Why does Eusebius propose that Paul wrote Hebrews in Hebrew, and that Luke translated it into Greek? This idea makes no sense to me, in view of the widely held opinion, that "Paul" was completely fluent in Greek. Was Tertullian basing his review on Clement's text, or on Origen's later version? So, here could be a candidate for a useful study, using an intelligent searching algorithm, what is popularly called "AI", acronym for artificial intelligence. In essence, the computer would create, like David Hindley, a huge array of tables, showing (in Greek of course) word use, listed by frequency, and verb conjugation patterns. Then a scoring algorithm would permit assignment of an arbitrary score according to the pattern obtained with the Greek writings of Clement, comparing them with Hebrews, Paul's letters, (both those acknowledged to be forgeries, and those ostensibly genuine) and Origen's texts, if any Greek copies remain extant. Is Clement of Alexandria's Greek text the oldest extant Greek copy of any text relating to Hebrews? Do any of Paul's epistles reference Hebrews? Until someone comes along with some evidence to the contrary, I will continue to wonder if Clement of Alexandria was not the author of Hebrews. |
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03-10-2012, 11:29 AM | #40 |
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it is unlikely the clement is the author of the text. clemens thanks paul wrote it concert all your things barnabas wrote it. the dating of the text may well be late first century
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