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Old 06-15-2004, 03:30 PM   #51
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By the way, 70 x 9 = 630 and 04 x 9 = 036. So this is where you get your extra 0's ...
What do you mean, where I got my extra 0s?

The numbers you got by dividing 63 and 36 by 9 were 7 and 4, not 70 and 4.
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i can see that you are all chasing the beast. Anyone familiar with hebrew
knows that each word refers to a set of the alphabet which is also
numbers. The number of the beast is a number of a man. You guys just
don't get it. Also Revelations becomes a stumbling block for those who
chase the beast, you guys are chasing your own tails.

To project your golem in time and space, you create a mandela, using
gematria, to figure your existence and then to project it. It is why
the panchen lamas could always find the dalai lama as a child. The
mandela they created was to bring each one of them through the
bardo state, using symbols which also equal numbers. When traversed
in such a manner, with the secrets inherent in the mandela, they
insure themselves that they will indeed return, and as Tibetans.
This is the secret of the blood, and many people hold this secret
sacred. The hindus also teach reincarnation, but they hold the
masses in this the first reality much like ancient egypt did, having
them reincarnate back into the system, because whats a kingdom
without people????

Why is this so hard to understand???? The Dalai Lama has been
incarnating upon this earth in the guise of a great spiritual leader
for the past 1300 years. If you need to understand the beast better,
just read the Tibetan book of the dead. It explains clearly what one
must do to find the lesser light. Those who are not enlighted enough
to understand this, always turn to the greater light. And that is the
ego with all of it's constituents, that was left behind.

Edgar Cayce said men who do this would have to pay dearly for it,
but he also says that one can easily escape judgement by fleeing
past Orion. Or to follow the North star.

The biblel calls reincarnation, illegal intercourse, it's been perpetuated
since the nephilim took on the flesh.

Hey god tells Cain you will surely wander....so Cain comes up with an
answer if, blank, then, blank.

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What do you mean, where I got my extra 0s?

The numbers you got by dividing 63 and 36 by 9 were 7 and 4, not 70 and 4.
Well obviously you can't add 63 to 36 and get 666 without multiplying 63 by 10 and 36 by 01, right? ... albeit the second part isn't necessary, except to show the symmetry.
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i can see that you are all chasing the beast. Anyone familiar with hebrew
knows that each word refers to a set of the alphabet which is also
numbers. The number of the beast is a number of a man. You guys just
don't get it. Also Revelations becomes a stumbling block for those who
chase the beast, you guys are chasing your own tails.
Of course this is all assuming we know what you know, which we don't. By the way, did you know that the center of the world is everywhere?
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So what would you like a complete configuration of et? Aleph to tav
using gematria brings you to the understanding of omnipresence. That
is a very long exercise and takes three days, although you can find the
hows and wherefores in the Bahir.

also side note: My family bible which is dated 1750 says 616. Not 666

But humans were created on the 6th day. The mystics of safed used
gematria to project themselves forward, this can be found in a few
books. I suggest that you read Yitzak Luria, to understand this better.

Notice that in most societies, the more spiritual knowledge you have the
'higher' your position. This has not changed in thousands of years. The
elite are given the 'secret's of existance, and the masses are left
ignorant. This is the vau, secret, and it is the son.

Now who is god's firstborn son??? it is not Jesus. In the book of Enoch
god's first born son is Satan, and he holds all of the 'light' or knowledge
in his belly. And only gives to those who are worthy to receive it.

Now Satan is the bloodline that the Nephilim have created to incarnate
and reincarnate through. It is this bloodline that holds the secrets of
existence. It is why all of the monarchies of Europe became one blood.
So that they would all possess this bloodline.

The secret of the blood, itself, has been weaned out of the old testament,
we only know that Cain is the father of the lie, and that he raped his brother
Abel to take control over her womb. We know that there were still sons
of men on the earth, untainted by the giants, the sons of the nephilim. They
wandered from place to place to escape the tyranny of these entities.

We know that there were men who fought against this bloodline. We see
that Abram rapes his slave girl to bring forth progeny the same way that
the nephilim do it. And he repents to destroy the notion of sodomy within
himself. He then makes a covenant that sin would not lie at his door, and
so he circumscises his penis. The jews do not stop there. Moses separates
the red sea, and David slays all of the giants, and Solomon sets his seal.
The stories related in the Bible, are ones about fighting the sons of Anak,
the fallen angels who took on the flesh, because men's eyes were dim.
Solomon completed his father's work, by setting his seal, around stonehenge.

The bloodline is still here. Those using it, are now sealed in the second
attention, or second realm, they are called the watchers, they are not
elohim as has been explained to Rael. They are those who can no longer
be here in the flesh, but their desire is so great they take on the appearance
of the 'unborn' (book of Enoch).

The bloodline is perpetuated by groups of men, who know all about this
bloodline, and this is the reason they keep it going. (they form secret
societies, and are elitists and continue the bloodline.......

Remember that even though the lamas left China to escape the edicts
of the Emperor, they took up the same ideas. They created the mandela
to reincarnate through, and because it was secret and so exclusive the
practice denigrated back down into bloodline. No one knew of the mandela
outside of Tibet, until the 20th century. And the mass consciousness of
the earth, flooded it. And the idea of reincarnation, which Justinian considered anathema made it's way back into the general population of
the west.

Using gematria you can easily deciper your own existence, the numbers
that create your energy field, what you vibrate at, and find them in
some 'future' date. This is projecting your golem in time and space.
It is not necessary to use bloodline, however that too, was used exclusively
by the mystics of Safed. And they guarded that secret with their
lives. This to do the 'good' work, and bring about the great
Tikkun. But again, it was only used by a group of men who were related
by blood. And so Satan tempts and gets them all.

We see that there are certain groups of men who create secret societies,
and this to possess the secrets that they obtained. The patriarchal order
needed to be in place for this to happen. Women had to be completely
subservient, and enslaved by this system. Men had to control the wombs
of women. It's the only way to ensure themselves of a future existence.

And that brings us to the hidden matriarchal order. Which has been working
for the redemption of men since the beginning.

Remember a woman is never her own person. She is her father's possession
and given in marriage to her husband, she never has her own name. I had
my father's name, and then had to take on my husband's name. The patriarchal order was designed to keep the bloodline pure, and ever existent
it is called in revelations the eternal waters, because it has existed from
the beginning, and this so that Cain could perpetuate his image, remember
Eve looked back and based all of the future on a past based conditional
reality. Cain was only 'half the image' and forced his brother, to continue
it. Abel's image lies fallow on the earth, she is a bag of blood. (Decipher
of Genesis) Carlos Suarez. Her image is mutilated because she no longer
brings forth as the unconditional womb, she must perpetuate bloodline,
so now.....who's chasing the beast??????

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I think it (616) is seen on a manuscript fragment dated earlier than 5th Century:

http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm
http://www.skeptical-christian.net/g...ce/616666.html
Fascinating. Unfortunately the NA27 only includes papyrus MSS up to P98. As such P115 doesn't appear in the critical apparatus. Even so it doesn't weigh heavily on my point which was that the vast preponderance of early MSS attest to 666. The P115 discovery increases the attestation to this variant to two.
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I thought the number was the number of 'man', not a man?

Anyway, a lot of evidence (term used loosely) suggests that Prince Charles, or perhaps William, is the beast


The royal emblem matches the description of the beast

A head wound was suffered and it healed up, gaining media attention

They claim to be from the bloodline of David and even married into the Spencer household to force this (mis)conception

They have had chips implemented into their right hands

Some theologians believe the 'Beast from the Sea' may have actualy risen from an isle, viz. the British isles

And there's a load of other stuff I forget about.

666 = Apparent christ
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The beast rises from the eternal seas, some say it is from the political
world, but it's from the divine bloodline......although monarchs are
the ultimate sodomites, we see that bloodline has become very important
to the elite whites of Washington. And the anti-christ does what his
'fathers' before him did not do. Maybe that means a pre-emptive war!!

Nostredamus speaks of an antichrist who uses the color blue, when it
is translated they show a man in a blue headdress, making him look
Arab. However Bush loves to wear a blue tie, especially when he
speaks of war.

The royal emblem is a red dragon. It was a red dragon in China, and
a few other countries. The red dragon represents bloodline. I'm sure
Queen mum considered herself divine.

side note: Princess Diana was willing to use her womb to bring forth
a middle eastern man's child. I am sure that she was pregnant. Which
must of scared the shit out of Queen Elizabeth, that would mean she
would no longer re incarnate through the royal british line, she'd wind
up somewhere near the wadi drah, maybe racing camels......
it's why Diana was murdered. If she brought this child through her womb
it would change the bloodline of all the royal household. Too late though, the joke is on the queen...
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A head wound was suffered and it healed up, gaining media attention
Actually this pertains to the doctrine that faith in Jesus alone (without works) saves. Which is a doctrine typically upheld by the Reformation. And by virtue that it was maintained, regardless of its falsity, is what's signified by it being healed.


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Or, the apparent prophet (the Church of the Reformed, more so the clergy) which comes in Christ's name.
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The welsh flag has a red dragon...



Charles' emblem reads

'I serve', translated from German, but if read in accordance with the images:

'I, the black prince, serve the red dragon'

Bum Bum Bummmmmmmmmmmm
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