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Old 02-22-2008, 08:55 PM   #401
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The Tyre prophecy is a judgement fulfilled in steps.
1. Nebby and the nations destroyed the mainland city.
2. Tyre's main economic theme would be fishing verses its former world trade system
3. Tyre in the end because of it's CONTINUED hostility against Israel (hostility against the Jews and Jerusalem is a reflection of hostility towards God) will be destroyed by the sea.

The first two have been fulfilled.
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:05 PM   #402
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The Tyre prophecy is a judgement fulfilled in steps.
1. Nebby and the nations destroyed the mainland city.
Tyre is the island. Always was. This mainland Tyre stupidity has been shot down so many times.



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2. Tyre's main economic theme would be fishing verses its former world trade system
More fantasy. The desperate lengths you go to create some semblance of fulfillment must be depressing even to you... Oh, I forgot, you don't reflect on what you write.

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3. Tyre in the end because of it's CONTINUED hostility against Israel (hostility against the Jews and Jerusalem is a reflection of hostility towards God) will be destroyed by the sea.
Oh, so it hasn't been fulfilled. I guess it must be because of the hostility of a few thousand Hezbollah whooping the asses of the Israelis that god will finally get off his butt and flatten Tyre after a few thousand years of unfulfillment.

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The first two have been fulfilled.



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The Tyre prophecy is a judgement fulfilled in steps.
1. Nebby and the nations destroyed the mainland city.
Tyre was the island. Always was. This stupidity has been shot down so many times, you're just boring.


More fantasy. The desperate lengths you go to create some semblance of fulfillment must be depressing even to you... Oh, I forgot, you don't reflecty on what you write.


Oh, so it hasn't been fulfilled. I guess it must be the hostility of a few thousand Hezbollah whooping the asses of the Israelis that god will finally get off his butt and flatten Tyre after a few thousand years of unfulfillment.

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The first two have been fulfilled.



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Tyre was both the island and mainland (see google map tour guides, this is the site they love to post and yet this site that Tyre was a "double city" so much for Atheist integrity).

All one has to do is look up modern Tyre and guess what Fishing is quite popular there...just as Ezekiel predicted....I dont even have to argue about this one.


Tyre will be destroyed by God....No nation was to destroy it....only to reduce Tyre which has been done.....Tyre prophecy proves that God not only exist....but He will return. :wave:
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:14 PM   #404
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Even the skeppies in Zekey's time thought prophecy/visions failed: Zekey 12:22

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New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Son of man, what is this proverb you people have concerning the land of Israel, saying, 'The days are long and every vision fails '?

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Son of man, what is this proverb you have in Israel: 'Days go by, and every vision comes to nothing'?

King James Bible
Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?

American Standard Version
Son of man, what is this proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?

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Son of man, what is this saying which you have about the land of Israel, The time is long and every vision comes to nothing?

Douay-Rheims Bible
Son of man, what is this proverb that you have in the land of Israel? saying: The days shall be prolonged, and every vision shall fail.

Darby Bible Translation
Son of man, what is that proverb which ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days shall be prolonged, and every vision faileth?

English Revised Version
Son of man, what is this proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?

Jewish Publication Society Tanakh
Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying: The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?

Webster's Bible Translation
Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?

World English Bible
Son of man, what is this proverb that you have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision fails?

Young's Literal Translation
Son of man, what is this simile to you, concerning the land of Israel, saying, Prolonged are the days, and perished hath every vision?
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Tyre was both the island and mainland (see google map tour guides, this is the site they love to post and yet this site that Tyre was a "double city" so much for Atheist integrity).
Irrelevant. Nebby didn't destroy the island, which Ezekiel said he would.

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All one has to do is look up modern Tyre and guess what Fishing is quite popular there...just as Ezekiel predicted....I dont even have to argue about this one.
Gosh, a prophecy that a city in a warm, coastal area would be a popular place for fishing. I think the technical term for that is "no brainer."

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Tyre will be destroyed by God....No nation was to destroy it....only to reduce Tyre which has been done.....Tyre prophecy proves that God not only exist....but He will return. :wave:
So ... God not having destroyed the city yet proves that he exists? Hmm. I've heard of low standards, but that is ridiculous.
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First of all I invite you to read the book of ezekiel, it deals with much greater issues than Tyre! Read how Zekey blah blah blah
None of which matters, because the Tyre prophecy was specific: Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon's armies would destroy Tyre.

It did not happen, however.

Result? PROPHECY FAILS! :rolling:
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The Tyre prophecy is a judgement fulfilled in steps.
Except that is not what Ezekiel says.
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Even the skeppies in Zekey's time thought prophecy/visions failed: Zekey 12:22
Which is irrelevant since it doesn't talk about Tyre.
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Nebuchadnezzar was there to destroy Tyre. If he did he would've left in a couple of days. He was there for 13 years. Game over supacaveman.
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Tyre was both the island and mainland
No, it wasn't.

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(see google map tour guides, this is the site they love to post and yet this site that Tyre was a "double city" so much for Atheist integrity).
Atheists have far more integrity than you do.

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All one has to do is look up modern Tyre
Which shows a city of over 100,000 people - which is itself a contradiction to the prophecy, which said the city would fall and never be found again, and never inhabited.

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and guess what Fishing is quite popular there...just as Ezekiel predicted
No, what Ezekiel predicted is that the city would be scraped bare and tossed into the sea. Instead, we have a bustling small city of 100,000 people.

Result? PROPHECY FAILS! :rolling:

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....I dont even have to argue about this one.
It wouldn't matter; you don't have the ammunition to argue it anyhow.
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