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Old 04-12-2005, 03:36 AM   #1
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Default 2 Corinthians 6 - not about marriage?

I've heard the verses in this chapter quoted many times in favor of why unbelievers and believers should not marry, and I've never disagreed with that. However, in chat today, seebs said that this chapter wasn't about marriage, it was about worship practices.

I've reread the chapter, and seebs's explanation doesn't sound as plausible to me as the more common one. I mean, was it normal for that time for believers and unbelievers to worship together, so much so that Paul had to tell them to stop doing it? Moreover, some of the terminology used seems to suggest marriage far more than it suggests worship practices - especially the "do not be unequally yoked together", and "What part has a believer with an unbeliever?" Anyone want to comment further on this?
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Actually, given that most of the ekklesia that Paul was writing to were communes, it most probably means have nothing to do with them at all.
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I've reread the chapter, and seebs's explanation doesn't sound as plausible to me as the more common one. I mean, was it normal for that time for believers and unbelievers to worship together
Without getting into the true meaning of that chapter, I think it's safe to say that believers and unbelievers must have habitually worshipped together. The pagan world of that time was amazingly syncretic--one of the reasons the Romans could never understand Jewish (and much later, Christian) exclusiveness. The view then was if a new god shows up on the horizon, just add her/him/it into the pantheon.

And, of course, one way to convert unbelievers into believers is to invite them to "church."
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I've heard the verses in this chapter quoted many times in favor of why unbelievers and believers should not marry, and I've never disagreed with that. However, in chat today, seebs said that this chapter wasn't about marriage, it was about worship practices.
Even accepting his interpretation as correct, I don't see how that suggests Paul would have looked favorably on the idea of a believer marrying an unbeliever. If he didn't want them worshipping together, I would think marrying them would be even more prohibited.
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Even accepting his interpretation as correct, I don't see how that suggests Paul would have looked favorably on the idea of a believer marrying an unbeliever. If he didn't want them worshipping together, I would think marrying them would be even more prohibited.
I have no idea what the facts of the case are, but tradition has it that, time after time, a believing wife would bring her unbelieving husband into the fold. Even Pilate's wife was supposed to have swayed her husband. So, from a recruiting viewpoint, it would have been just good sense to encourage marriage of a believer (especially a woman) to an unbeliever.

I know that doesn't resolve the issue, but it's something to think about.
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2 Cor 6: 14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? (NIV)
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1 Cor 7:12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
But that aside, the question of whether 2 Cor 6 refers to marriage has been the subject of lots of speculation. It is discussed in this conservative Christian message:
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The Greek word which the KJV renders "unequally yoked" is heterozugeo, which is a very rare word in biblical literature. It is found only here in all of the New Covenant writings, and is found only once in all of the Old Covenant writings (Lev. 19:19). It means to be "yoked unequally" with another. In the Law of Moses, many feel it had a clear reference to breeding or mating of animals that were unsuitable. "You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind" (Lev. 19:19, NKJV).
However, the reference in Leviticus is not necessarily sexual. It appears to refer to yoking two animals of different size, strength, or temperament together, which would obviously make it difficult to plow the field.

This leads to the argument that Paul is only forbidding "unequal" relationships, in which one party would be subordinate to the other and be forced to compromise his or her beliefs or actions.

This particular article decides that Paul is advising against marriage to a non-believer, but that it is not a sin.

Here is a more liberal view, that may support seebs' interpretation:

A study in context
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Paul, trained Pharisee that he was, no doubt well understood all this and applied this principle in addressing the church at Corinth (2 Cor 6:14). In many evangelical churches, this verse from Corinthians has been used very narrowly as a warning against marrying non-Christians. But in the situation at Corinth, it had much broader implications. Corinth was well known for its wild lifestyle. It was a major seaport (nearby at Lechaion) and a crossroads of the northern Mediterranean. The Middle Eastern practice of sacred prostitution in pagan temples was readily accepted in such a climate, as well as in some of the Greek temples that stood there in the first century.

. . . Using the OT principle of preserving boundaries between things that should not be mixed, Paul simply says that being Christian means that the Corinthians can no longer practice the activities of pagan worship or pagan ethics, since those are things that should not be mixed with the worship of God. In other words, what they did ethically mattered a great deal if they were claiming to be Christians.
Or you can check out Jason Gastrich who doesn't want believers even hanging out with non-believers.
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Clearly, Paul is not referring to a marriage relationship. God is warning us, through the apostle Paul, that we are not to associate with unbelievers.
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Or you can check out Jason Gastrich who doesn't want believers even hanging out with non-believers.

Does this mean belivers have to leave this forum?
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Does this mean believers have to leave this forum?
You're asking me? I say no. 2 of the 3 Christians I quoted would agree.
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Does this mean belivers have to leave this forum?
Are you kidding?!? Then there'd be no floorshow at all! :Cheeky:

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