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Neither Paul nor the Empire were clairvoyant. They couldn't possibly see what would happen 400 years hence and beyond. As far as 'common speculation', I saw it in an old spy novel and found it interesting. Valid? Who knows? |
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I have some major problems with your post, I don't think that the Jesus described in the NT could have had a real human brother, since Jesus is characterised as the offspring of the Holy Ghost and the Son of God. Jesus in the NT may have had a brother called the Satan as described in Job1.6 Job 1.6 Quote:
I don't think "Paul" is solely responsible for Christianity to the Gentiles when his conversion in Acts appear to be bogus. It seems that there were Gentile Christians long before "Paul". I think Justin Martyr was a Christian long before "Paul" was made a letter writer. |
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But equating James (of the Epistle of James) with the (fictional) Satan in Job is bizarre. Job is to be read as allegory. |
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I think the character called "Paul " was more like a ganster based on the Acts of the Apostles, and more like a con-man in the "Pauline Epistles. And this character may have been created to distort the true history of believers in Jesus, the ascended. And the Epistle of James is to be read as fiction. |
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His view of mandatory belief in the bodily resurrection of Jesus, not only distorted the history of believers, but also the future of Christianity. Quote:
I was thinking of the parts dealing with ethics at a personal and community level. I was told by a born-again that 'James' was heresy. "Paul won. Works are nothing. One only needs to believe." Thus was born 'church on Sunday, cheat, lie and steal the rest of the week.' |
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Constantine could have extended or destroyed any religion when he was alive, neither Jesus, Peter nor Paul had such power. |
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