Nergel

In proverbs 1:24-33, atheists think it means that God will laugh at your misfortunes, mock you when you are afraid, and ignore you when you ask him for help. And if you seek him, you will not find him....but so what?, in proverbs 24-26 it says "Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof"...so what's so horrible about this?, they didn't listen to god no matter how hard god tried for them
Seriously, why do you use that as an argument?

untermensche

An atheist cannot logically use one word of the Bible to say things about a god, since an atheist believes the Bible is merely the product of the human imagination, which does not know about any gods.

Nergel

Alright. But this is an argument used to disprove god, but I explained why it doesn't and I expect rebuttal

Dean Anderson

I've been on this site since 2003, and seen hundreds (if not thousands) of discussions.

And I've never seen a single instance of that verse being used as an argument to disprove God (to the best of my recollection).

So I doubt anyone here will be interested in defending its use - since no-one here uses it as far as I can tell.

Do you have examples of people using it that you can quote?

Nergel

Use a verse that proves that god doesn't love us all equally
Also bring me the verses that disproves god

post tenebras lux

A quick google for "proverbs 1:24-33" seems to list only theistic sites.

Anyway, welcome to IIDB Nergel. Will you be staying around or are you just passing through?

Luxie :wave:

douglas

I may be wrong, but this verse applies to "Wisdom" and not necessarily god.

The author has personified wisdom, and basically said: "Hey, if you want to do dumb stuff, that's fine with me, but don't come crying to me when you make an ass of yourself and things so south on you. Stop and think before you act. God gave you a brain, so why don't you use it?"

This verse is about the quest for knowledge, in my humble opinion.

DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR

Genesis 1:1 through Revelation 22: 21, is a very good start, but you should be aware that using the Bible to prove or disprove anything is like a dog chasing it's tail. It can be fun, but doesn't get you anywhere...

Theists need to realize that atheists raise questions about the Bibles for many varied reasons. Atheist that I know don't take any of the Bibles too seriously, as they are pretty much a joke if read from beginning to end.

Maybe when all the religions that believe in Gods settle their differences there might be something to prove, but till you do, I'll just enjoy being me.

Nergel

Yes http://hillbillyatheist.com/questions.htm says:
"If you think god isn’t happy about casting people into hell why does he say in proverbs that he will laugh at you while he does it?"
Can you please explain what I don't understand about this?

douglas

The guy who wrote this...



... has a good sense of humour, but got this particular verse wrong. "Wisdom" will laugh at your misfortunes, not God. There are plenty of other verses in the bible showing God getting satisfaction from the destruction of humans, but this does not happen to be one of them.