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Dilandau · 03-05-2004, 02:40 AM

Perhaps I do not even exist and this is all but a hoax.

keyser_soze · 03-05-2004, 04:08 AM

It's something for sure...I can smell it in fact.

Dilandau · 03-05-2004, 07:06 AM

However, the ":" behind torah words is NOT a masoretic cantillation mark. It's called suf passuk, meaning END OF VERSE and it is present in torah scriptures 500 years BEFORE any so called 'random' verse scheme has been established, i.e. it's allready present in the much older codex leningrad. It's true, that the codex leningrad is a masoretic script, but the suf passuk is not a masoretic sign and even if it was one, the codex leningrad is 500 years older than the allegedly random verse scheme. only some chapter divisions and minor editing on the verse borders in several few places stem from the 16th century. this is why our present torah editions vary and proof that the codex leningrad was not 100% authentic but later scholars tried to fix that. some streams of torah keepers have recognised this very earlie and kept their very own torah at all away from the masoretes. some of these differ bad and this tells us we are far appart from knowing what really happened in the 16th century. some chance is there, that the embedded Hitomi-data is only present since the masoretes but i have to prove with a claremont-file from the qumran rolls (i have verified hitomi to be present in our modern torahs and also in the codex leningrad). qumran may be a hoax, but the today in-torah embedded hermetic wisdom is stone age old. and if you don't pass it over, the stones will cry.

You want "correct writing" and "correct behaviour" in place of "correct science". typical compensation of a i-know-papa moth.

Doctor X · 03-05-2004, 07:54 AM

I thought it was hentai that was proven.

--J.D.

Dilandau · 03-06-2004, 04:37 PM

Let's put this thread on top. :°

Doctor X · 03-06-2004, 05:43 PM

Why, did it fail as a bottom?

--J.D.

MrFrosty · 03-07-2004, 04:53 AM

This thread almost sense.

7.5 out of 10 for effort though, guys.
On the prize meter, that's worth an e-cookie so here it is -----> O

You are teh winnar!!11

Dilandau · 03-07-2004, 12:16 PM

This thread is worth to be continued on the actual board.

Doctor X · 03-07-2004, 01:50 PM

Under what forum?

I would, sincerely, recommend consulting Richard Elliott Friedman's new, The Bible with Sources Revealed, which shows how the different sources--J, E, P and various redactors came together. The authors of the individual sources could not have intended some of these overall "conspiracies" particularly since they never expected to be in the same text together.

--J.D.

Adora · 03-07-2004, 03:06 PM

Yeah, and I saw the web-sub-address to this and giggled my head off. Nothing makes me laugh harder than an ignorant gaijin calling themselves an Otaku. Except perhaps a crackpot conspiracy theorist one.

And damn you Weltwall for making me remember all those horrible Japanese classes I had to sit through in high school (okay so they weren't *horrible*, I liked the language and found it easy, but the teacher didn't like me and kept picking on me

at least she taught me well enough to understand what you posted).

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03-05-2004, 02:40 AM	#41
Dilandau Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Munich Posts: 151	Perhaps I do not even exist and this is all but a hoax.

03-05-2004, 04:08 AM	#42
keyser_soze Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: god's judge (pariah) Posts: 1,281	It's something for sure...I can smell it in fact.

03-05-2004, 07:06 AM	#43
Dilandau Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Munich Posts: 151	However, the ":" behind torah words is NOT a masoretic cantillation mark. It's called suf passuk, meaning END OF VERSE and it is present in torah scriptures 500 years BEFORE any so called 'random' verse scheme has been established, i.e. it's allready present in the much older codex leningrad. It's true, that the codex leningrad is a masoretic script, but the suf passuk is not a masoretic sign and even if it was one, the codex leningrad is 500 years older than the allegedly random verse scheme. only some chapter divisions and minor editing on the verse borders in several few places stem from the 16th century. this is why our present torah editions vary and proof that the codex leningrad was not 100% authentic but later scholars tried to fix that. some streams of torah keepers have recognised this very earlie and kept their very own torah at all away from the masoretes. some of these differ bad and this tells us we are far appart from knowing what really happened in the 16th century. some chance is there, that the embedded Hitomi-data is only present since the masoretes but i have to prove with a claremont-file from the qumran rolls (i have verified hitomi to be present in our modern torahs and also in the codex leningrad). qumran may be a hoax, but the today in-torah embedded hermetic wisdom is stone age old. and if you don't pass it over, the stones will cry. You want "correct writing" and "correct behaviour" in place of "correct science". typical compensation of a i-know-papa moth.

03-05-2004, 07:54 AM	#44
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	I thought it was hentai that was proven. --J.D.

03-06-2004, 04:37 PM	#45
Dilandau Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Munich Posts: 151	Let's put this thread on top. :°

03-06-2004, 05:43 PM	#46
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Why, did it fail as a bottom? --J.D.

03-07-2004, 04:53 AM	#47
MrFrosty Moderator - Miscellaneous Discussions Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Shenzhen, S.E. China (UK ex-pat) Posts: 14,249	This thread almost sense. 7.5 out of 10 for effort though, guys. On the prize meter, that's worth an e-cookie so here it is -----> O You are teh winnar!!11

03-07-2004, 12:16 PM	#48
Dilandau Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Munich Posts: 151	This thread is worth to be continued on the actual board.

03-07-2004, 01:50 PM	#49
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Under what forum? I would, sincerely, recommend consulting Richard Elliott Friedman's new, The Bible with Sources Revealed, which shows how the different sources--J, E, P and various redactors came together. The authors of the individual sources could not have intended some of these overall "conspiracies" particularly since they never expected to be in the same text together. --J.D.

03-07-2004, 03:06 PM	#50
Adora Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,743	Yeah, and I saw the web-sub-address to this and giggled my head off. Nothing makes me laugh harder than an ignorant gaijin calling themselves an Otaku. Except perhaps a crackpot conspiracy theorist one. And damn you Weltwall for making me remember all those horrible Japanese classes I had to sit through in high school (okay so they weren't horrible, I liked the language and found it easy, but the teacher didn't like me and kept picking on me at least she taught me well enough to understand what you posted).

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