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Old 04-04-2008, 04:33 PM   #131
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Ha, ha! Find me a prophecy fortelling the rise and fall of specific kings and kingdoms....thousands of years in advance...outside of the Bible you will not find one.
And you won't find one in the bible either - which is why fundies try to shoe-horn different kings into the historical record, switch empires and conquerors, and refuse to commit themselves to a particular interpretation.
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:43 PM   #132
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Ha, ha! Find me a prophecy fortelling the rise and fall of specific kings and kingdoms....thousands of years in advance...outside of the Bible you will not find one.
And you won't find one in the bible either - which is why fundies try to shoe-horn different kings into the historical record, switch empires and conquerors, and refuse to commit themselves to a particular interpretation.
Exactly what critics do to try and disprove them. But Israel most certainly will not allow that.
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:38 PM   #133
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And you won't find one in the bible either - which is why fundies try to shoe-horn different kings into the historical record, switch empires and conquerors, and refuse to commit themselves to a particular interpretation.
Exactly what critics do to try and disprove them.
It isn't the critics who are trying to trade Nebuchadnezzar for Alexander, and pretending that Greek and Roman empires are separate, except when they need them to be the same.

No, that would be the fundies doing those gymnastics.
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Israel has nothing to do with it - except to stand as another example of failed prophecy.
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:09 PM   #134
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Ha, ha! Find me a prophecy fortelling the rise and fall of specific kings and kingdoms....thousands of years in advance...outside of the Bible you will not find one.
I'm not aware of any such prophecies in bible. Which particular Kings and Kingdoms were foretold thousands of years in advance?
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:36 PM   #135
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Bible prophecy always fails to meet the necessary criteria.

Prophecy Criterea:
  • The prophecy must be clear and unambiguous
  • The event must be a fulfillment of the prediction
  • The event must have actually happened
  • The prophecy must have happened before the event
  • The event must not have been artificially created
  • The prophecy must not have been a logical guess

Another important thing is specific dates, otherwise procrastination is inevitable. Bible prophecy interpretation is usually (conveniently, I should add) impossible before event due to vagueness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postdiction
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:49 PM   #136
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Exactly what critics do to try and disprove them.
Critics don't have to try to disprove them. If you say a prophecy was fulfilled, you have to prove you're right. Until you to do, it's reasonable for us to think you're wrong.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:57 AM   #137
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what about the fundamental stupidity, sillyness and retardedness and i dunno, weird mindedness of the idea of a creator who creates the entire concept of divine prophecy?

the stupid idea that the grand being thinks its funny to "tell us a little"

"tell us a little more"

"tell us a little mooooore"

its just silly and goofy

"and one day, everything will be right, at least for some of you"

"and one day, someday, someone will come who will tell you a little moooore!"

:down:

ok so once again, no one understands what I bring to light


but lets also address the stupidity of being able to actually talk abouty if a fucking prohpecy was fulfilled or not

guess what, it is impossible to know!

at least as far as for the nature of any prophecy i have read about.

maybe if a guy forsaw me typing this 100 years ago and wrote down "on infidels.org the poster burning flames will say the following things" then yeah
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what about the fundamental stupidity, sillyness and retardedness and i dunno, weird mindedness of the idea of a creator who creates the entire concept of divine prophecy?

the stupid idea that the grand being thinks its funny to "tell us a little"

"tell us a little more"

"tell us a little mooooore"

its just silly and goofy

"and one day, everything will be right, at least for some of you"

"and one day, someday, someone will come who will tell you a little moooore!"

:down:

ok so once again, no one understands what I bring to light


but lets also address the stupidity of being able to actually talk abouty if a fucking prohpecy was fulfilled or not

guess what, it is impossible to know!

at least as far as for the nature of any prophecy i have read about.

maybe if a guy forsaw me typing this 100 years ago and wrote down "on infidels.org the poster burning flames will say the following things" then yeah
Prophecy proves the Bible...that God reigns in the heavens.
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Prophecy proves the Bible...that God reigns in the heavens.
How can that be, when the prophecies have all failed?

ROFLMAO
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