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Old 07-08-2007, 03:20 PM   #1
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God created us in His image, we also have free will like He Himself does.

Even the Angels dont possess free will as they were created to serve Him but not for fellowship as we were.


So God wont force Himself on us or demand anything of us. We must by our own will seek Him so that our relationship is freely attained. He wont have a relationship with us based on forced subjugation. So even though God can do anything he wants to, that doesn't mean He will. He wont force us to submit as that would conflict with the free will He created us with and our Father wont do that as He wont break any Spiritual Law He set us within the bounds of.

You can freely receive or reject Him, the choice is yours. But the moment we all shed this flesh, we will know all truths immediately. And many of us will realize immediately all the opportunities we blew by scoffing at the truth rather than thoughtfully stop and think about the eternal possibilities being posed by the most unlikely sources. Just like this one.
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This sort of ill-informed preaching has a place, but it's not here in BCH.

See you in E.
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You can freely receive or reject Him, the choice is yours. But the moment we all shed this flesh, we will know all truths immediately. And many of us will realize immediately all the opportunities we blew by scoffing at the truth rather than thoughtfully stop and think about the eternal possibilities being posed by the most unlikely sources. Just like this one.
OK, I bet I know how this is going to go, but I think the ride might be fun.

So, why exactly does God wait until we die to provide us with the Truth?
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You can freely receive or reject Him, the choice is yours. But the moment we all shed this flesh, we will know all truths immediately. And many of us will realize immediately all the opportunities we blew by scoffing at the truth rather than thoughtfully stop and think about the eternal possibilities being posed by the most unlikely sources. Just like this one.
OK, I bet I know how this is going to go, but I think the ride might be fun.

So, why exactly does God wait until we die to provide us with the Truth?
He provides us with the Truth through His Word - some choose to reject the truth, some choose to accept it. When we are dead, what happens is that we KNOW that it is Truth, even those that scornfully rejected it, and that the other "truths" were human foolishness.
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OK, I bet I know how this is going to go, but I think the ride might be fun.

So, why exactly does God wait until we die to provide us with the Truth?
He provides us with the Truth through His Word - some choose to reject the truth, some choose to accept it. When we are dead, what happens is that we KNOW that it is Truth, even those that scornfully rejected it, and that the other "truths" were human foolishness.
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Yet, I'm sure you know the real Truth, right?
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OK, I bet I know how this is going to go, but I think the ride might be fun.

So, why exactly does God wait until we die to provide us with the Truth?
He provides us with the Truth through His Word - some choose to reject the truth, some choose to accept it. When we are dead, what happens is that we KNOW that it is Truth, even those that scornfully rejected it, and that the other "truths" were human foolishness.
OK, you got in one dodge of the question. Let me re-phrase, and see how you answer now.

Why doesn't God let us KNOW the Truth right now?
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God doesn't want to force us, he just wants to see us all burn in hell for daring to use the minds he allegedly gave us in order to examine the lack of evidence for his existence and determine that he in fact doesn't exist. Then he goes and provides us with his Word, which is indistinguishable from every other religion ever made. The Muslims pull the 'but our holy book is so awesome it must have been written by a god' card too. While they're technically a branch of Christianity, the MoroMormons also like to pretend that their Wordogawd is somehow so perfect that anyone who looks at it must be either convinced that it's the word of a deity or an evil kitten-bbq-ing atheist. Guess what, we're not convinced by any of it.
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Even the Angels dont possess free will as they were created to serve Him but not for fellowship as we were.
You realise that Satan and chums are angels?
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-BlackWodin, have you ever been startled by a horror movie(You know, when someone/something suddenly jump onto the screen like many poor horror movies do?) or by your own reflection, a jack-in-a-box or something like that? I'm sure you have, we've all had that happen. What I want to ask is; where did your free will go then? I mean, you didn't think someone was going to jump out of the screen, that your reflection was going to assault and batter you or that the jack-in-a-box was going to eat you?

-This might seem rather unimportant to you but it highlights a very important question; if the body can react against your own will then how can you have free will? And how much does your physical body control your actions? If, through brain surgery(Lobotomy is one example), one can affect the attitude and behaviour of a person, how is it possible for that person to have free will? If the ingestion of various chemicals can alter your personality, if certain diseases and genetic disorders can change how you behave, how can you then have free will? If the physical body - the brain - influences your choices then how can you possibly be judged by your actions, even your thoughts?
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