gregor4

Christ's Case Before God

Christian faith is in their salvation by their redemption, and
redemption is the forgiveness of their sins, and without sin there
is life eternal, and ones redemption is only by ones belief in Christ
as the Messiah, the Son of God, the only begotten of God, and being
the one, only way to life eternal. Hence, belief is forgiveness is
redemption is salvation, is eternal life..

As all who know earthly life will know bodily death, the death which
Christ refers to can only be the death of ones spirit, and so Christs
issue of law would only save life from spiritual death, but as Christs
law condemns earthly life, joining his law forsakes earthly life.

Christ was killed by the Jews because of the law he issued, for that law
condemns all whom live their own lives on earth, and all material values,
and it drives one into enslavement, and into the desire for bodily
death/union with God in Heaven.

(PassOver comes a few days before Christian Easter NOT by chance, but to
drive the christ spirit/mystic away!)

Christ accepted crucifiction to issue God's law, and if he would not
accept crucifiction, that law would not have been issued, and Jesus
would not have been the Christ, but would have kept his own life on
earth. If Jesus did not accept to issue the law and take crucifiction,
he would have disobeyed God, and he would then know spiritual death, but
he would have kept his own earthly, bodily life, which ends in bodily
death.

Christ cannot say, that if he did not accept crucifiction he would then
have done his own will (for to avoid his own bodily death) that when
accepting crucifiction he was doing only God's will, and not his own
will. (soto avoid his own spiritual death) Either way Jesus/Christ was
going to die, but by serving God's will he would know eternal spiritual
life. Is spiritual death not a greater suffering and loss than bodily
death/crucifiction? (spiritual death as eternal, and if a suffering, an
eternal suffering)

The evil of the christian is their joining the law of the Christ to save
only themselves, and the Christ's law condemns all humankind, but the
christian themself is not affected by that law, and are exempt from the
law and have no obligation to it, and only for themselves. The Christian
proceeds to worship Christ as the uttermost goodness, but only for
themselves, and to make themselves the utmost least good, and only for
themselves, and so doing join to condemn all humankind altogether, and
only for themselves, and do so soto flatter that Christ, but only for
themselves, and the Christ savours their selfishness, for it serves
it's case before God that humankind be utterly destroyed.
The more christians there be, the stronger Christ's case be before God!

(Without the law for love, there is no duty to love others, and there is
only selfishness, and without sacrifice there is only selfishness, and
without law and sacrifice there is utter selfishness, being why most
christians are 'right-wing', and why so many neo-nazi's are christian.)


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If one asks love for themself, they ask love from another, and they
join the will for love for others. If one asks love from another,
they ask for sacrifice, for without sacrifice there is only
selfishness, and there is no love. They whom ask love for themself
join the will for love for others and the will for sacrifice, and it
needs be they too serve love for others and they too take-up sacrifice.
Otherwise, they reject love for others and justify others to reject
love also, and without the will and duty to love others, all that is law
and all that is justice collapse, for only by that duty are we made and
held accountable. Without the will for love, there is neither love for
nor from others, but there is utter selfishness.

And I say, all whom by their own good Heart freely join the purpose
that we have life without harm, and they whom do so serve mercy and
honesty and justice, and will deny themselves and the earth, that they
are in those actions worthy to have life, and their will and actions are
accounted for belief in God.

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Read my essay Creation, Human Society, and Suffering
at www.mts.net/~chs2000/chs.html

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Jeremy Pallant

Not BC&H material. I'm moving it to GRD. You should get more responses there.

Hedshaker

You just can't beat a good sermon.

So, gregor4, what was the question again?

Orbit