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01-22-2004, 08:28 PM

Greetings all,

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An Armenian translation of St. Mark has quite recently been discovered, in which the last twelve verses of St. Mark are ascribed to Ariston, an early church leader.

Anyone heard about this?
(I saw it mentioned on a Christian debate board.)

Iasion

Peter Kirby · 01-22-2004, 10:36 PM

The sentence quoted is an adaptation of this: "Indeed an Armenian translation of St. Mark has quite recently been discovered, in which the last twelve verses of St. Mark are ascribed to Ariston, who is otherwise known as one of the earliest of the Christian Fathers; and it is quite possible that this tradition is correct." The book, written by Kenyon et al., is titled Our Bible and the Ancient Manuscripts (pp. 7-8). Here's the kicker...it was first published in 1895!

The manuscipt is Etchmiadzin #229 and dates to 989 CE. It may be dependent on Eusebius, H. E. 3.39.7. Here is a picture,

F. C. Conybeare gets credit for making the find.

best,
Peter Kirby

Toto · 01-22-2004, 10:46 PM

A recent discovery - in 1891.

Quote:

Thus says Dummelow [1927], the commentator of the Bible:

. . .

The Gospel of St. Mark, being the first extensive and authoritative account of our Lord's life, as distinguished from His discourses, attained at its first publication (A.D. 55-60) a considerable circulation first in the west and afterwards in the east. At the time it concluded with an account of the Galilean appearance, which is now only to be found in St. Matthew (28:16). The subsequent publication of the first and third Gospels, which incorporated practically its whole subject-matter, and were far more interesting as containing discourses, practically drove it out of circulation. When at the close of the Apostolic age an attempt was made (probably in Rome) to collect the authentic memorials of the Apostles and their companions, a copy of the neglected second Gospel was not easily found. The one that was actually discovered, and was used to multiply copies, had lost its last leaf, and so a fitting termination (the present appendix) was added by another hand. A recently discovered Armenian MS. (1891) definitely ascribes the appendix to Ariston, i.e. probably Aristion, "a disciple of the Lord mentioned by Papias (A.D. 130)".

From an Islamic apologetic site arguing against the divinity of Jesus

Also noted in The Ending of Mark

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01-22-2004, 10:36 PM	#2
Peter Kirby Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: the reliquary of Ockham's razor Posts: 4,035	The sentence quoted is an adaptation of this: "Indeed an Armenian translation of St. Mark has quite recently been discovered, in which the last twelve verses of St. Mark are ascribed to Ariston, who is otherwise known as one of the earliest of the Christian Fathers; and it is quite possible that this tradition is correct." The book, written by Kenyon et al., is titled Our Bible and the Ancient Manuscripts (pp. 7-8). Here's the kicker...it was first published in 1895! The manuscipt is Etchmiadzin #229 and dates to 989 CE. It may be dependent on Eusebius, H. E. 3.39.7. Here is a picture, F. C. Conybeare gets credit for making the find. best, Peter Kirby

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