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Old 01-05-2009, 05:48 PM   #41
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You know, I remember an Infidel Guy Show where Robert Price talked about the idea of "Jesus Christ" being a title rather than a name. I'm not sure if there's anything to that.
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Saint Nicolas = Santa Klaus = Santa Claus = Shit happens

You can say that again but look what happened to the reality behind St. Nicholaas (as we call him).

His is depicted as an ancient [omniscient] holy man who's birthday is celebrated on Dec.6 and is anticipated for 4 weeks (advent for children) prior to that. It takes children from faith through doubt to understanding much in the way Epiphany brings understanding to Christians. So it can be said that the feast of St. Nicholaas is a foreshodow of the real thing for adults later in life.

With the feast of St. Nicholaas on Dec.6 there is no entertainment at Christmas for two days since it represents the night on which 'the sun stopped' to be placed opposite to Easter as the 2nd time 'the sun stopped' to announce the seventh day on which evening never followed the everlasting day in eternity.

So, yes, santa may be fun but I think he is an idiot until someone can convince me that there is some merit behind all this commotion at Christmas.
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Matter of fact the first KJV in 1611 used Iesus (Latin) for the messiah.
Can you point me to where in the KJV text this is done?

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Sure man just google "KJV using Iesus in 1611 edition"
*i cant post links or images until i get to 5 post LOL, so im at 2 right now this will be three but just google that, comes up quick

*also if you know the transliteration process then you know that this is true*
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Can you point me to where in the KJV text this is done?

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Sure man just google "KJV using Iesus in 1611 edition"
This is is not the kind of pointing I had in mind. Please give me a verse from a NT book in the KJV that shows that "the KJV in 1611 used Iesus (Latin) for the messiah."

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*also if you know the transliteration process then you know that this is true*
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BTW, when I do google "KJV using Iesus in 1611 edition" , I get the follwoing:



No results found for "KJV using Iesus in 1611 edition".
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Images of the 1611 Authorized Version, a.k.a. the King James, are available at the Schoenberg Center for Electronic Text and Image at U. Penn. As one can tell from the images, the letter 'j' is not used. Rather, the letter 'i' is used for both the vowel and the consonant. What relevance this orthographic convention has to do with the name of Jesus, however, is beyond me.

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Sure man just google "KJV using Iesus in 1611 edition"
This is is not the kind of pointing I had in mind. Please give me a verse from a NT book in the KJV that shows that "the KJV in 1611 used Iesus (Latin) for the messiah."

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*also if you know the transliteration process then you know that this is true*
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Whoops sorry about that man, i mean once you the results come up look under images. My bad on the directions LOL. But its very simple. Like the post above there are plenty of images of it using Iesus, and the original bible being King Iames! J wasnt invented yet so its common sense. ><
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This is is not the kind of pointing I had in mind. Please give me a verse from a NT book in the KJV that shows that "the KJV in 1611 used Iesus (Latin) for the messiah."

:huh:

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Whoops sorry about that man, i mean once you the results come up look under images. My bad on the directions LOL. But its very simple. Like the post above there are plenty of images of it using Iesus, and the original bible being King Iames!
There was no bible until the KJV in 1611??


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J wasnt invented yet so its common sense. ><
The letter J wasn't "invented" when? By/in 1611? And what is it that is "common sense"?

I note too that you've still not done what I've asked you several times now to do, namely, to cite a specific verse from a NT book in the KJV that shows that "the KJV in 1611 used Iesus (Latin) for the messiah."

Is there some reason that you haven't done so?

And is it too much to ask that you observe the standard conventions of capitalization and punctuation when you compose the messages you post here?

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Whoops sorry about that man, i mean once you the results come up look under images. My bad on the directions LOL. But its very simple. Like the post above there are plenty of images of it using Iesus, and the original bible being King Iames!
There was no bible until the KJV in 1611??


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J wasnt invented yet so its common sense. ><
The letter J wasn't "invented" when? By/in 1611? And what is it that is "common sense"?

I note too that you've still not done what I've asked you several times now to do, namely, to cite a specific verse from a NT book in the KJV that shows that "the KJV in 1611 used Iesus (Latin) for the messiah."

Is there some reason that you haven't done so?

And is it too much to ask that you observe the standard conventions of capitalization and punctuation when you compose the messages you post here?

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http://www.eliyah.com/1611.gif
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There was no bible until the KJV in 1611??




The letter J wasn't "invented" when? By/in 1611? And what is it that is "common sense"?

I note too that you've still not done what I've asked you several times now to do, namely, to cite a specific verse from a NT book in the KJV that shows that "the KJV in 1611 used Iesus (Latin) for the messiah."

Is there some reason that you haven't done so?

And is it too much to ask that you observe the standard conventions of capitalization and punctuation when you compose the messages you post here?

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http://www.eliyah.com/1611.gif
This is relevant to any of the questions I asked above how?

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This is relevant to any of the questions I asked above how?

Jeffrey

It shows the use of Iesus, in a NT verse. Isn't that what you asked for?
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