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Spanish_Inquisitor · 04-22-2010, 01:46 PM

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Well, I couldn't by-pass Prometheus Books who did a great deal of editorial and design work on the book, including promoting it, which, if they hadn't done so it wouldn't have gotten the attention it already has. That's why I can't send the pdf file to anyone. They deserve their rightful financial reward.

Yes. It's a handsome book, and they should be well compensated for supporting and publishing it.

It sort of depends on your contract. Sometimes publishers don't do them, or allow you to market certain rights by yourself. Maybe you have to check with them, but I know an author that makes more money selling his own ebooks, than the hard copies, because they are priced to sell, (i.e. much lower than Amazon or B&N) and he has no or little overhead, so he makes up in volume what he loses in price.

Still, bottom line, it's a contract issue. Prometheus should get something, but from your point of view, what is the best and most efficient way of getting the maximum number of copies of the book out there? :constern01:

Sea · 04-23-2010, 07:29 AM

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Thanks for your clarifications Sea, although I want to stress that Jason Long's chapter is excellent! Do you agree or not, and if not I'm interested in knowing why.

It's a rant, but it's a good rant. I found it easy to relate.

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I disagree with you about whether TCD will reach the Christian. But we'll have to see. I know that since apologists are nearly a dime a dozen they will want to get it and respond. A few college classes are using my book WIBA in their apologetic classes, and I suspect some will also choose this one. And don't think for one minute that most all Christians insulate themselves by not testing what they believe against this type of book (otherwise, you'll have to explain the success of The God Delusion).There are many honest Christians who will pick it up and read it. I'll bet on it against what you think.

I suspect The God Delusion had the opposite effect on Christians from what Dawkins hoped, on the whole. By proclaiming itself a book intended to turn religious readers into Atheists, Christians who read it and found it wanting — which it was — would likely feel they've done their due diligence. If that's the best Atheism seems to have, and they've come out the other side faith intact, why trouble themselves further?

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I'm also very happy to hear that you think TCD can be understood even by a late-teen reader (surely you are NOT suggesting that this is the level of scholarship presented in the book, right?).

The level of scholarship varies, which is perfectly fine. I was making a positive statement about the accessibility of all chapters. There's no conflict between smart writing and readable writing.

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Since books written over the heads of people don't have mass appeal I wanted it to be understood by as many people as possible without sacrificing depth of content. And I think we achieved this.

Yes.

John W. Loftus · 04-26-2010, 06:50 AM

As promised earlier I took down my "review" of The Christian Delusion.

It's no longer needed since the "Look Inside the Book" feature has been activated.

For convenience here is the link again:

Amazon (or via: amazon.co.uk)

Cheers

Spanish_Inquisitor · 04-26-2010, 08:07 PM

And I started reading it. I thought I'd blog about it as a read, while the chapters were still fresh in my mind.

Not sure when the next installment will be up, as life has a tendency to intrude on the best laid plans.

Toto · 02-16-2011, 01:52 PM

Richard Carrier's talk at Skepticon 3 on youtube

This is very good, and quite relevant to this forum.

Switch89 · 02-16-2011, 03:00 PM

How widely has The Christian Delusion circulated? Has it broken 10,000 in sales yet?

Toto · 03-21-2011, 11:48 PM

It is now available on Kindle for under $10.

Amazon Rank: #26,272 in Books
#31 in Books > Religion & Spirituality > Spirituality > Atheism
#58 in Books > Religion & Spirituality > Christianity > Theology > Apologetics

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04-26-2010, 06:50 AM	#33
John W. Loftus Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 126	As promised earlier I took down my "review" of The Christian Delusion. It's no longer needed since the "Look Inside the Book" feature has been activated. For convenience here is the link again: Amazon (or via: amazon.co.uk) Cheers

04-26-2010, 08:07 PM	#34
Spanish_Inquisitor Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Harrisburg PA. Home of Intelligent Judges. Posts: 547	And I started reading it. I thought I'd blog about it as a read, while the chapters were still fresh in my mind. Not sure when the next installment will be up, as life has a tendency to intrude on the best laid plans.

02-16-2011, 01:52 PM	#35
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Richard Carrier's talk at Skepticon 3 on youtube This is very good, and quite relevant to this forum.

02-16-2011, 03:00 PM	#36
Switch89 Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 453	How widely has The Christian Delusion circulated? Has it broken 10,000 in sales yet?

03-21-2011, 11:48 PM	#37
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	It is now available on Kindle for under $10. Amazon Rank: #26,272 in Books #31 in Books > Religion & Spirituality > Spirituality > Atheism #58 in Books > Religion & Spirituality > Christianity > Theology > Apologetics

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