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Vinnie · 10-27-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by hope's daughter
Vinnie just forget about it and say you don't believe. This way you can be honest. With your first sentence here you just admited to not adhering to some primary essentials of Christianity. You are still my brother though.

God bless!

So I am being dishonest???

Vinnie

Magus55 · 10-27-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Sci_Fidelity
Another verse that has always puzzled me (well, not really...)

Dt.27:22

Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother.

Isn't this in direct conflict with the (creationist) admitted fact that incest had to occur early on after creation?

Nope, because before this law in Dueteronomy, it wasn't incest. After the population's genes became too defective, God forbid relations between close family members.

Demigawd · 10-27-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by hope's daughter
God bless!

Who sneezed?

Godot · 10-27-2003, 06:09 PM

I've always liked 1Tim 1:7
Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

hope's daughter · 10-27-2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Vinnie
So I am being dishonest???

Vinnie

Do you honestly believe you are a Christian after what you posted?

Vinnie · 10-27-2003, 06:11 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roland
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Originally posted by Magus55
Wrong, Jesus claimed to be God.

Not quite accurate. The best one can say is that OTHERS said Jesus claimed to be God. He, himself, never wrote a word.

Actually, only ONE writer claimed Jesus said that, I believe - the guy who wrote the Gospel of John. The other gospel writers don't claim Jesus said that, if I'm not mistaken.

You are absolutely correct. In the Gospel of John all Jesus does is proclaim himself. In the synoptics he has to actually ask the disciples who they think he is. This is all ridiculously inconsistent---especially given the short ministry....

Magus55 · 10-27-2003, 06:11 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roland
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Originally posted by Magus55
Wrong, Jesus claimed to be God.

Not quite accurate. The best one can say is that OTHERS said Jesus claimed to be God. He, himself, never wrote a word.

Actually, only ONE writer claimed Jesus said that, I believe - the guy who wrote the Gospel of John. The other gospel writers don't claim Jesus said that, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm sure a lot of historical figures had people write things down for them. That in no way makes it any less valid. Jesus said He was God, the apostles wrote down His words.

Demigawd · 10-27-2003, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Nope, because before this law in Dueteronomy, it wasn't incest. After the population's genes became too defective, God forbid relations between close family members.

And you are privy to this knowledge how?

hope's daughter · 10-27-2003, 06:12 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roland
[B]

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Originally posted by Magus55
Wrong, Jesus claimed to be God.

Not quite accurate. The best one can say is that OTHERS said Jesus claimed to be God. He, himself, never wrote a word.

Actually, only ONE writer claimed Jesus said that, I believe - the guy who wrote the Gospel of John. The other gospel writers don't claim Jesus said that, if I'm not mistaken.

I disagree with you completely. Christ did claim to be God.

Demigawd · 10-27-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by hope's daughter
I disagree with you completely. Christ did claim to be God.

You were there? How extraordinary.

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Godot Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,335	I've always liked 1Tim 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

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