ChristMyth

Rare biblical texts hit the road

According to him, one of the sections is a portion of Romans that dates to the middle of the second century. If this is accurate, where does this put the approximate date of other books relative to it. Does it change anything?

Toto

That link is a video of Steve Green, the president of Hobby Lobby, discussing a copy of a chapter of Romans that dates to the second century. He doesn't discuss how the copy was dated.

There is no suggestion that this is an autograph or an original copy, so this does not tell you anything about when the Epistle to the Romans was written, except that it was written before the second century and could not be a fourth century composition.

The video refers you to http://explorepassages.com/

Toto

There is a previous thread on the Green Collection and Hobby Lobby here

Toto

To answer your updated question, this changes nothing. The standard view is that Romans was written in the first century, and published in a collection of Paul's letters at some time in the second century. Up to now, the earliest copies were from the third century, so this is an earlier copy.

aa5874

The Pauline writings [P 46] has already been dated by Paleography to the mid 2nd-3rd century.

aa5874

The standard view is irrelevant to the actual dating of existing texts of the Pauline Epistles by Paleography.

You must understand that there are people who do NOT accept the Presumption that the Pauline writings were composed in the 1st century before the Fall of the Temple.

So far, NO texts of the Pauline writings that has been dated even by Paleography support the presumption that the Pauline writings were composed Before the Fall of the Temple.

People who consider the Pauline writings were written AFTER the Fall of the Jewish Temple have been VINDICATED so far and there is little hope that the situation will change.

The position that the Pauline writings were composed AFTER the Fall of the Temple and AFTER the writings of Justin Martyr is COMPLETELY intact.

Toto

Whetheer you date the Pauline epistles to before or after the fall of the Temple, a manuscript dated to the second century will not change anything.

Duvduv

By the way, it isn't likely texts that call Jesus a rabbi could be from before 70CE because the term wasn't used yet. I wonder how rabbi is translated into Greek because I can only rely on the English.

aeebee50

I still do not have a lot of faith or trust in Paul.

Toto

Paul never refers to Jesus as rabbi, so that doesn't apply here.

The term in Greek is ῥαββί = "r'abbi"

See http://concordances.org/greek/rabbi_4461.htm