EsoCyn

Apologist, per chance do you post at either the American Nihilist Underground Society or the Metal Archives boards?

Apologist

It actually was meant as a joke, and I thought it was hilarious. Whatever the case, it isn't Fascism that attempted to exterminate the Jews. That was strictly national socialism that saught the extermination of the Jews. If I recall correctly, Mussolini actually protected, to an extent, Italian Jews from Hitler.

Apologist

Nihilist? Do I sound like a follower of Nihilism?

Metal Archives? I've never heard of either up till now. Post links?

Apologist

Freedom or Liscese? Make the distinction. That said, that was a fairly short time period in which the resistance occured, and under extraordinary conditions. Had Britain been conquered, I doubt the French would have continued resisting.

laughing dog

Your recollection and mine are different. Italians did protect Jews to some extent - inspite of Mussolini.

Negasta

Bull-Fucking-Shit!!! I cannot believe anybody who lives in civilized society can believe such utter crap. Fascism has always brought out some of the greatest evil and barbarism in humanity and was resonsible for the most destructive war in human history.

Fascism gives no freedom at all, if you disagree with any of their doctrines, you get shovled into the ovens along with the Jews you mentioned.

I shall rephrase my recently edited finalle: You being a fascist, hate me without even having met me, just because I'm gay, so in your ideal cathalo-fascist world I would be oven fuel.

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Rhea

Not sure what this means. What they weren't complaining about doesn't sound very appealing to me, still. The lifestyle they were acquiring doesn't sound very appealing to me. To say, "the scum get death, and I'm not scum" seems to always leave the niggling doubt, "yet". It seems like a terribly anxious and uncertain time to wonder if one day your kind will, by attrition of the lowest classes of humanity, one day become the lowest class of humanity - with predictable results.

Nah. Doesn't sound very appealing to me at all.
By the way, I live with one of those Germans who wasn't complaining. When she looks back on it now, she asks, "WTF were we thinking?" What you call order, she realizes was a precarious and fragile existence at someone else's whim. Which, when it turned into a different someone's whim (Russians) became something of a living hell.

Doesn't sound very appealing to me at all.

FatherMithras

Fascism has in every case led to destruction and death of one's own people and the fall of the State. Catholoicism has led to the death of milions of innocent people because the Popes were too stupid to realize the nature of reality and decided to wage Crusades over Non sanctioned raids and to force people to say the earth was the center of the Universe. Hmmmm....

And freedom is NOTHING like the ability to "tend to what's best". Since nothing is objectively "best" and because that's NOTHING like freedom.

EsoCyn

A lot of people who post at ANUS aren't really nihilists -- rather they're a conglomerate of jack asses, elitists, nazis, fascists and a few extreme eco-leftists. Metal Archives is partly a dwelling ground for fascists, nazis and just plain idiots.

http://www.anus.com/
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/

ETA: I'm not going to debate with you because fascism is largely irrelevant these days. It enjoyed a bout or two back in the early 1900s I guess, but it's faded since except with the occasional group of nazis or old nationalists.

Yggdrasill

This freedom. Simply put, the ability to make a choice without external restraint.

If I want to watch porn, no one should stop me, if I want to criticise anything, no one should stop me, if I want to worship the invisible pink unicorn or the flying spaghetti monster, no one should stop me. Understand?

And the resistance wouldn't have ended if Britain had been conquered, freedom is non-negotiable for many many people.