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Old 01-03-2009, 06:11 AM   #11
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In the Gospels, the character who plays YHWH's annointed savior is named "YHWH's annointed savior" (Jesus Christ). This is clearly a title, not a proper birth name.

So if there was a historical core to Jesus, the probability that his birth name was actually 'Jesus' is the same as for any other male in the general population. I seem to recall that supposedly 1 in 6 males were named Jesus, but I have my doubts about such a high number.
Weren't literal meaning of most Hebrew names something around god-given-blessed meaning, eg. ones that could be applied to Jesus as well? I remember reading some article which responded like this.
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Weren't literal meaning of most Hebrew names something around god-given-blessed meaning, eg. ones that could be applied to Jesus as well? I remember reading some article which responded like this.
I really have no idea.
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Weren't literal meaning of most Hebrew names something around god-given-blessed meaning, eg. ones that could be applied to Jesus as well? I remember reading some article which responded like this.
Basically, yes.

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It may mean something that 'Jesus' and 'Joseph', his father(?), are both names which abbreviate the same name (Yehoshu'a), as if one was called Bill and the other called Will.
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The transition runs from Joseph through Jesus to the generic no-name John with JBap having a short appearance to foreshadow the end.
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It may mean something that 'Jesus' and 'Joseph', his father(?), are both names which abbreviate the same name (Yehoshu'a), as if one was called Bill and the other called Will.
The name Joseph (Heb yôsēp(יֹוסֵף) comes from the Hebrew verb ysp and means "He adds”, yes?

How is this an abbreviation of the Hebrew name yĕhôšûa˓ ( יֵשׁוּעַ),the meaning of which is “YHWH is salvation” or “YHWH saves/has saved”?

Where ever did you get the notion that "Jesus" and "Joseph" are both names which abbreviate the name Yehoshu'a?

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Ignoring the Aramaic -> Greek -> English name conversion, is is possible that Jesus wasn't called Jesus? That the name Jesus was picked to use because it was so common and generic - like John Doe? IIRC, Mohammed's actual given name is also unknown - Mohammed is a "stage name", selected long afterwards.
You have exposed a major dilemma for those who propose an historical Jesus.

They are looking for someone whose name is not known.
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Ignoring the Aramaic -> Greek -> English name conversion, is is possible that Jesus wasn't called Jesus? That the name Jesus was picked to use because it was so common and generic - like John Doe? IIRC, Mohammed's actual given name is also unknown - Mohammed is a "stage name", selected long afterwards.
No, because Jesus is a Hebrew name meaning "from God". So...
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Ignoring the Aramaic -> Greek -> English name conversion, is is possible that Jesus wasn't called Jesus? That the name Jesus was picked to use because it was so common and generic - like John Doe? IIRC, Mohammed's actual given name is also unknown - Mohammed is a "stage name", selected long afterwards.
No, because Jesus is a Hebrew name meaning "from God". So...
It does? Can you show me some data that supports this claim Jesus is a Hebrew name meaning "from God", even ignoring the fact that Jesus is a Greek name?

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Jeffrey, isn't "Jesus" an English name, derived from Latin rather than from Greek?
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