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Old 06-04-2007, 01:39 AM   #91
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Not the originals.
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Copies of copies, not of the originals,
How do you know that they are not copies of the originals?

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that you have no problem translating, of course.
Of course. They are quite easy to translate. Even a Modern Greek speaker can make a fair stab at it. (In fact the Greek Orthodox think they are uniquely qualified to translate the NT. But then they would.)
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:14 AM   #92
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Yes, you deserve a medal.
Why thank you. You deserve to go sit in the corner for claiming that no one has claimed that the Bible is inerrant when you knew that many people have claimed that the Bible is inerrant.

By the way, there is no way that anyone can provide credible evidence that the copies that we have today are exactly the same as the originals except for scribal and copyist errors. That is especially true of the Old Testament. Inerrantists claim that the Bible is inerrant, but they cannot provide any credible evidence that such is the case.

Is God obligated to feed hungry people? If he isn't, why should he be obligated to provide Christians with inerrant texts? He didn't provide any texts at all for hundreds of millions of people who died without hearing the Gospel message.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:21 AM   #93
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How do you know that they are not copies of the originals?
I don't. I was hoping you might provide what you use.

Are they? Who has the originals?
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Yes, you deserve a medal.
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Why thank you. You deserve to go sit in the corner for claiming that no one has claimed that the Bible is inerrant when you knew that many people have claimed that the Bible is inerrant.
Johnny the mind-reader. Why come here to ask questions?

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By the way, there is no way that anyone can provide credible evidence that the copies that we have today are exactly the same as the originals except for scribal and copyist errors.
There is.

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That is especially true of the Old Testament. Inerrantists claim that the Bible is inerrant
What business is that of anyone else?

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He didn't provide any texts at all for hundreds of millions of people who died without hearing the Gospel message.
What does that matter?
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:06 AM   #95
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How do you know that they are not copies of the originals?
I don't. I never said that they are not copies of the originals, but inerrantists claim that they are copies of the originals. I am content to agree that there is no reliable evidence either way. Will inerrantist make the same concession?

Do you believe that the Bible is inerrant except for scribal and copyists errors?

Can any Christian reasonably prove the the story of Adam and Eve in any form was in the originals?

Do you believe in intelligent design?
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I was hoping you might provide what you use.
That was a funny way to ask.

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Who has the originals?
The autographs are probably well disintegrated by now.
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:42 AM   #97
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I was hoping you might provide what you use.
That was a funny way to ask.
Humor is the best approach, imo, when you feel you might not get an answer...
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Who has the originals?
The autographs are probably well disintegrated by now.
How about the copies of the originals then? Who copied them and when were they copied?
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That was a funny way to ask.
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Humor is the best approach
'Funny' has another meaning.

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The autographs are probably well disintegrated by now.
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How about the copies of the originals then? Who copied them and when were they copied?
Why do you want to know?
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'Funny' has another meaning.
As does humor...


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To know is to grow...
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As does humor...
I didn't know.

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