Thomas II

Is the Jesus figure a composite ideal drawn from many sources?
Is "Jesus" a composite of many Jesus-like men?
Is Christianity dependent on a historical singular Jesus?

Chris Weimer

There's a thread with practically the same question here.

Thomas II

Oooops!

youngalexander

My father used to claim this.
"lex", he'd say, looking up thortfully from his mutton stew, "Christianity is akin to communism".
I thort him quite mad as a Youngster, and could not understand why dear old dad thort this way - he hated taxcollectors! Yet, with age I have come to see the wisdom of his observation. That Jesus was a caring, sharing, kindly chap - unless you happened to be a fig tree.:devil:

Djugashvillain

Thort? Is that a Nordic god I am unfamiliar with?

Thomas II

The fig tree event is very telling...I mean, the man cursed and killed a fig tree because the tree did not have fruit since it was not the season. In other words, the tree was just beings a good ol' fig tree!! Jesus on the other hand was obsessed with this messiah thing...According to prophesy upon the arrival of the Messiah fruit trees would be "so happy", that they would bare fruit EVEN OUT OF THEIR SEASON...
So,for Jesus,it was like a slap on his messianic ego from a tree he had gone out of his way to check for approval of his messiaship...
It was something like this:

"Fig tree, fig tree!...Who is the most messianic of them all?...
Is it me?... Is it me?...Tell me fig tree...Is it me?

(no fruit)...(awkward silence)... (The tree simply thinking "WTF?" )

Oh,yeah??...So no fruit, uh???... How the fuck do you dare not reassure me of my messiaship, you fucking tree!!...Die,motherfucker!! DIE!!!"

And the story goes that the tree was so traumatized by the whole exchange that the poor thing just withered and died...

So much for sweet loving Jesus...

Chili

It is a about the unexamined life is not worth living. Judaism is like a fig tree that bears fruit at midlife as we saw with Nathanael under the fig tree. This means that there was no baby Jesus but Jesus is the transition period between Jew and man as God.

braces_for_impact

No that was Socrates. Socrates liked little boys, so do some Catholic priests. Coincidence? I think not.

Thomas II

See,Chili, that is just the problem...There has to be a moment when you can say "No more excuses".
It doesn't have to sound like "NO...MORE...WIRE...HAAANGEEEERS!!"
Simply,no more excuses...
The fig tree story WAS NOT about "And when is Judaism gonna bare fruit,by golly?"
The fig tree story was about "Where the fuck are MY figs, you fucking tree?
Am I not the Messiah??...You are dead,tree...Oh,you are so dead..."
And if anyone has a doubt, tell them to go ask the tree, who was, literally,
scared shitless by a man who obviously was under tremendous stress at the time, so streesed that soon after he was allegedly sweating BLOOD knowing that the shit was about to hit the fan...
("Pleeeze,Abba,plueeeze...Not the cross,Abba! Not the cross!...Not the tree!!!
(...Blood sweating...)What?...The cross it is?...You made a deal??...Oh,no!!! (...Blood sweating...) Oh,shit....Ok...Ok...whatever you say...You are the boss..."

(Some might even say fig tree karma!...)

Chili

No more excuses is exactly what Jesus said when he came to show them Jews the right way to do it.Exactly, no more premature rebirthsyou dumb bastards (sic) who will sell your own birthright for the pleasure of spiritual pedophelia. Let me clarify this and say that to be a "child of Israel" lost in the desert is to have been fornicated into becoming a child of God Billy Graham style. So that is why Jesus said, enough is enough, and now we see a repeat of this going on in America by the very people who think Jesus is coming back soon (because they have been given a scorpion on the first go-around). I think it is funny, very funny, and would not be a bit suprised if they'll spend your nations wealth to try to make this dream of theirs come about. So I'd say, hang on, you're in for a fun ride.Would it not be nice if Billy Graham et al bears fruit once, 'only once' would be enough so he can tell the rest how wrong they are. But that is not to be and the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus tells us so.