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Old 01-08-2009, 09:31 AM   #81
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No. But that does not mean a thing. But why would followers of the rabidly ant-Jewish Marcion have a synagogue??

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Good question! Maybe that is what the author decided to call it, as I doubt it had a sign saying "Marcion's Synagogue and Heretical Emporium" enscribed on the entrance...
If it was what the the author decided to call it, what does this say not only about his knowledge of Marcion, but of whether we should take anything of what he says as true?

And 4th century synagogues did have such signs -- in the way they were set out architecturally. On this, see, e.g. E. Levine, The Ancient Synagogue: The First Thousand Years (or via: amazon.co.uk).

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Jeffery, Ben,
A quick OT, if you don't mind.

To your knowledge, did Justin ever accuse Marcion of tampering with the scriptures?
Not in our extant texts, to the best of my knowledge.

However, we do not have the work Against Marcion that Justin wrote, from which Irenaeus quotes in Against Heresies 4.6.2. Who knows what an entire text about Marcion may or may not have said about him?

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Jeffery, Ben,
A quick OT, if you don't mind.

To your knowledge, did Justin ever accuse Marcion of tampering with the scriptures?
Not in our extant texts, to the best of my knowledge.

However, we do not have the work Against Marcion that Justin wrote, from which Irenaeus quotes in Against Heresies 4.6.2. Who knows what an entire text about Marcion may or may not have said about him?

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And, it must be noted that Irenaeus did write some strange things. It was he who said that Jesus was an old man when he suffered, and to the best of my knowledge, he was not accused of tampering with the "memoirs of the apostles".

It is best to deal with the information we have, not with what may be out there somewhere.
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It is best to deal with the information we have, not with what may be out there somewhere.
Is it possible for two people, if they are both reasonable, to examine exactly the same information and reach different conclusions about it?
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Is it possible for two people, if they are both reasonable, to examine exactly the same information and reach different conclusions about it?
I believe that has been conclusively shown by the example of the most recent US government, under the guidance of Bush and Cheney. They repeatedly came to conclusions which were the reverse of those reached by thousands of other people. Despite consistent failure, both still persevered in their world view.
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They repeatedly came to conclusions which were the reverse of those reached by thousands of other people. Despite consistent failure, both still persevered in their world view.
Many would question the assumption that Bush and Cheney are reasonable people.
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