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Babilonian captivity (from Wikipedia): The Book of Jeremiah 52:28-30 mentions three separate occasions. The first was in the time of Jehoiachin in 597 BCE, when the Temple of Jerusalem was partially despoiled and a number of the leading citizens were removed. After eleven years (586 BCE, in the reign of Zedekiah) a fresh rising of the Judaeans occurred; the city was razed to the ground and a further deportation ensued. Finally, five years later (581 BCE), Jeremiah records a third captivity. After the overthrow of Babylonia by the Persians, Cyrus gave the Jews permission to return to their native land (537 BCE), and more than 40,000 are said to have availed themselves of the privilege. Previously, the northern tribes had been taken captive by Assyria and never returned; survivors of the Babylonian exile were all that remained of the Children of Israel.
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What I find quite interesting is the total lack of prophecies regarding Israel in the Book of Revelation, which is supposed to cover the "end times". IIRC, Israel is never mentioned at all.
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them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. REV 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. RV 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. |
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I don't think we can be certain which defeat this refers to, but most likely it refers to the conquest by Babylon (which may or may not be historical, but the Biblical authors tended to think it was). |
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None of these is a prophecy about Israel, however. |
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REV 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there
them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. REV 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. RV 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. Quote:
of prophesy and exhortation that Rev contains, the state of Israel is not really mentioned, when compared to old testament prophesies. A possible reason could be that the last book has prophesies which were given in the new age, which began at the day of pentecost. In this age the Jews and Gentiles are supposed to have "reasonably equal" status, in the eyes of God. If this is the case, prophesies could reflect it. (No I don't want to get into proving the "age" thing. There are far too many speed bumps, and it's like driving 10 MPH for the theists) |
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Scurrilous comparisons of matzah balls and speed bumps. Using the Larsguy47 method of research, I know what's going on. It was all predicted. Notice that "matzah" and "MPH" both begin with "m." And since matzah is a highly religious item, connected with Moses (also beginning with "m") and with Mitzrayem (Hebrew word for "Egypt," beginning with "m"), it's obvious that Matzah should be capitalized, like MPH, Moses and Mitzrayem). So, since the M is common to both terms, we get: 10 M(PH) - 3 M(atzah) = 7 M leaving: 7 = number of days in the week Which day begins with "M"? Monday! Now look at the following frequency distribution: Sunday - 24 hours Monday - 24 hours Tuesday - 24 hours Wednesday - 24 hours Thursday - 24 hours Friday - 24 hours Saturday - 24 hours Since Wednesday is in the middle of the distribution, it's the most likely day. Now, between Wednesday and Sunday are only two days. One is Tuesday, which stands for Mercury, in other words, the Archangel Michael (M and M). And Michael is the Messenger of God just like Mercury was the Messenger of the Greek gods. (M again.) But what else stands between Wednesday, the planet of Wotan or God the Father or Jehovah who created the Earth and Sunday? It's Monday (that pesky M). So, it's clear, when M stands between the Earth (W) and the Sun (S), we can expect a message from M & M. Now how does M stand between S and W? Easy. M, the Moon, stands between S, the Sun, and W, the Earth, during an eclipse of the Moon. And what did we just have a few weeks ago? A total eclipse of the Moon! It was all predicted. 1000s of years ago. Antisemitism is rampant on this thread. And I wouldn't have seen it without the genius of Larsguy47. PS. All this was predicted in secret posts, written before the eclipse, which the mods know about, but which they deleted, but which I have copies of, but which I won't show you. RED DAVE |
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