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Old 04-10-2007, 02:16 PM   #11
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Why do you hate the Jews?

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I just had matzah ball soup 3 nights ago...
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Babilonian captivity (from Wikipedia): The Book of Jeremiah 52:28-30 mentions three separate occasions. The first was in the time of Jehoiachin in 597 BCE, when the Temple of Jerusalem was partially despoiled and a number of the leading citizens were removed. After eleven years (586 BCE, in the reign of Zedekiah) a fresh rising of the Judaeans occurred; the city was razed to the ground and a further deportation ensued. Finally, five years later (581 BCE), Jeremiah records a third captivity. After the overthrow of Babylonia by the Persians, Cyrus gave the Jews permission to return to their native land (537 BCE), and more than 40,000 are said to have availed themselves of the privilege. Previously, the northern tribes had been taken captive by Assyria and never returned; survivors of the Babylonian exile were all that remained of the Children of Israel.
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The "prophecies" in question were written at a time when the Israelites/Jews were in a proces of exile/scattering/return. They reflect a contemporary phenomenon.
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What I find quite interesting is the total lack of prophecies regarding Israel in the Book of Revelation, which is supposed to cover the "end times". IIRC, Israel is never mentioned at all.
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I am a bit confused, since this passage fits very well, in waht happend to the jewish nation.
It also fits very well with what happened to lots of other nations.
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What I find quite interesting is the total lack of prophecies regarding Israel in the Book of Revelation, which is supposed to cover the "end times". IIRC, Israel is never mentioned at all.
REV 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there
them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast
a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things
sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
REV 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there
were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the
tribes of the children of Israel.
RV 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the
gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the
names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.
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What do you think about these passage?

deut 28; 63

63 Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.
64 Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known.

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I am a bit confused, since this passage fits very well, in waht happend to the jewish nation.
Obviously, this was written after it had already happened, or at least, after it was believed to have happened. The history of the Jewish people, like that of all people, is a history of repeated conquests and humiliations.

I don't think we can be certain which defeat this refers to, but most likely it refers to the conquest by Babylon (which may or may not be historical, but the Biblical authors tended to think it was).
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REV 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there
them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast
a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things
sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
REV 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there
were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the
tribes of the children of Israel.
RV 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the
gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the
names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.
...Ah, OK, thanks for that.

None of these is a prophecy about Israel, however.
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REV 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there
them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast
a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things
sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
REV 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there
were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the
tribes of the children of Israel.
RV 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the
gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the
names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.

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...Ah, OK, thanks for that.

None of these is a prophecy about Israel, however.
I did see your original point, and it made me think. For the huge amount
of prophesy and exhortation that Rev contains, the state of Israel is not
really mentioned, when compared to old testament prophesies. A possible
reason could be that the last book has prophesies which were given in the
new age, which began at the day of pentecost. In this age the Jews and
Gentiles are supposed to have "reasonably equal" status, in the eyes of
God. If this is the case, prophesies could reflect it. (No I don't want to
get into proving the "age" thing. There are far too many speed bumps,
and it's like driving 10 MPH for the theists)
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I just had matzah ball soup 3 nights ago...
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There are far too many speed bumps and it's like driving 10 MPH for the theists
This thread is becoming a hot bed of antisemitism.

Scurrilous comparisons of matzah balls and speed bumps. Using the Larsguy47 method of research, I know what's going on. It was all predicted.

Notice that "matzah" and "MPH" both begin with "m." And since matzah is a highly religious item, connected with Moses (also beginning with "m") and with Mitzrayem (Hebrew word for "Egypt," beginning with "m"), it's obvious that Matzah should be capitalized, like MPH, Moses and Mitzrayem).

So, since the M is common to both terms, we get:

10 M(PH) - 3 M(atzah) = 7 M leaving:

7 = number of days in the week

Which day begins with "M"? Monday!

Now look at the following frequency distribution:

Sunday - 24 hours
Monday - 24 hours
Tuesday - 24 hours
Wednesday - 24 hours
Thursday - 24 hours
Friday - 24 hours
Saturday - 24 hours

Since Wednesday is in the middle of the distribution, it's the most likely day. Now, between Wednesday and Sunday are only two days.

One is Tuesday, which stands for Mercury, in other words, the Archangel Michael (M and M). And Michael is the Messenger of God just like Mercury was the Messenger of the Greek gods. (M again.)

But what else stands between Wednesday, the planet of Wotan or God the Father or Jehovah who created the Earth and Sunday? It's Monday (that pesky M). So, it's clear, when M stands between the Earth (W) and the Sun (S), we can expect a message from M & M.

Now how does M stand between S and W? Easy. M, the Moon, stands between S, the Sun, and W, the Earth, during an eclipse of the Moon.

And what did we just have a few weeks ago?

A total eclipse of the Moon!

It was all predicted. 1000s of years ago. Antisemitism is rampant on this thread. And I wouldn't have seen it without the genius of Larsguy47.

PS. All this was predicted in secret posts, written before the eclipse, which the mods know about, but which they deleted, but which I have copies of, but which I won't show you.

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From Malachi151:
From Dave Reed:
This thread is becoming a hot bed of antisemitism.

Scurrilous comparisons of matzah balls and speed bumps. Using the Larsguy47 method of research, I know what's going on. It was all predicted.

Notice that "matzah" and "MPH" both begin with "m." And since matzah is a highly religious item, connected with Moses (also beginning with "m") and with Mitzrayem (Hebrew word for "Egypt," beginning with "m"), it's obvious that Matzah should be capitalized, like MPH, Moses and Mitzrayem).

So, since the M is common to both terms, we get:

10 M(PH) - 3 M(atzah) = 7 M leaving:

7 = number of days in the week

Which day begins with "M"? Monday!

Now look at the following frequency distribution:

Sunday - 24 hours
Monday - 24 hours
Tuesday - 24 hours
Wednesday - 24 hours
Thursday - 24 hours
Friday - 24 hours
Saturday - 24 hours

Since Wednesday is in the middle of the distribution, it's the most likely day. Now, between Wednesday and Sunday are only two days.

One is Tuesday, which stands for Mercury, in other words, the Archangel Michael (M and M). And Michael is the Messenger of God just like Mercury was the Messenger of the Greek gods. (M again.)

But what else stands between Wednesday, the planet of Wotan or God the Father or Jehovah who created the Earth and Sunday? It's Monday (that pesky M). So, it's clear, when M stands between the Earth (W) and the Sun (S), we can expect a message from M & M.

Now how does M stand between S and W? Easy. M, the Moon, stands between S, the Sun, and W, the Earth, during an eclipse of the Moon.

And what did we just have a few weeks ago?

A total eclipse of the Moon!

It was all predicted. 1000s of years ago. Antisemitism is rampant on this thread. And I wouldn't have seen it without the genius of Larsguy47.

PS. All this was predicted in secret posts, written before the eclipse, which the mods know about, but which they deleted, but which I have copies of, but which I won't show you.

RED DAVE
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