DrewDiggler

And now the OP apologists has abandoned the timing element and just said that the apostles envisioned (aka dreamed) of the second coming. On another thread we have a guy who says prohpecies have open-ended expiry times. So now not only can prophecies be fulled at any point in time, they can be fullfilled while you sleep. How convienient.
So, what was the point of prophecies again?
Edgar Cayce was a better prophet than Jesus.

sugarhitman

The reason why their prophecies failed is because they set times and dates when the Lord and the Apostles made it clear that this is unknown. That is why Jesus said that the generation which see the signs (like the rise of the Anti-Christ) would be that generation. These signs could have appeared in any generation. Any one who says Christ will appear at a specific date is deceiving himself and others (such a thing will happen when the anti-christ arises). Date seting is contrary to what Jesus said "No man knows the day or hour." Ridicule all you want due to some failed prophecy of some nut who refused to obey what Jesus said. Shame on them...not on Him. <wave>

Sheshbazzar

The Opening Post in this thread;
Oh! the irony of it!
(but 'hitman didn't break my "irony meter" this time, as I rebuilt it especially reinforced against the possibility of this eventuality.

arnoldo

Wow, an appeal to ridicule, what a refreshing change of tactic

Sheshbazzar

Not really an "appeal" to ridicule, as 'hitman above, actually invited the Ridicule of "some failed prophecy of some nut who refused to obey what Jesus said."
Seems quite evident just who that particular "nut" would be in this case.


edited to add a couple of questions for sugarhitman (and his "home" team, if they would like to defend his proposition);
Yo 'hitman, are you still prophesying that Aremegeddon is going to take place 60 years from now in 2068?
ARE you still Date Setting and failing to obey what Jesus said?
Shame on..

arnoldo

Thanks for the correction ( I think. . .), the tactic you are using is called ad hominem.:down:

Sheshbazzar

Sugarthitman started this thread with his own bullshit assertion and prediction that this generation is the generation that will experience Armegeddon within 60 years, and now after over 100 posts, he comes back here with this;
These two positions, presented by the same poster, "sugarhitman" are certainly at odds.
He is the one that wanted to show off here, attempting to scare us into a fearful submission to his line bullshit, by setting a "time" for Aremegeddon, using the same mouldy old scare tactic that has always been the stock and trade of his ilk.
Now that he has found that he can't sensibly defend what he started, he attempts to slide out from under being responsible for the stupidity of the OP that he started.
To reverse his position as he is here attempting, he first needs to "come clean" and admit that he screwed up in the first place, rather than this latest sneaky attempt to cover that trail of shit that is still stuck to his shoes.
As it stands, no one could make a bigger ass of him than what he is already doing to himself.

Why not cut the name calling crap, and address the questions?

ARE you still prophesying that Aremegeddon is going to take place 60 years from now in 2068?
ARE you still Date Setting and failing to obey what Jesus said?

arnoldo

Dude, have you ever heard of the War on Terror?


Gee, I guess you wish we were in the middle of the tribulation right now :Cheeky:
Uhh, have you ever heard of ignoring something which upsets you instead of obsessing over it. . .
Right, doncha think people can reach their own conclusion without your brilliant commentary?

Lame, did anyone set a date for a certain event to occur?

He can admit you try to put words in his mouth.
Maybe you could set an example and tone down the rhetoric? :huh:
The reminds me of the question "are you still beating your wife?"
2012:Cheeky:

Sheshbazzar

2012 is it?

arnoldo

Right, focus in on a date and ignore the people crying for "peace and safety (IOW, the war on terror)", wars and rumours of wars, earthquakes, famines, pestilences, etc,etc. :banghead: