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burning flames · 06-16-2007, 03:27 PM

just wached this dvd by ashra kwesi.

its very interesting, he thinks that the old testament stories are largely copied from ancient egypt.

I think the similarities between ancient kemet stories and the bible stories are definitely interesting.

But I dont know where he credits knowing that the stuff was really directly copied. it makes a LOT of sense and its not by any means a crazy assumption.

infact one point, the wisdom of king solomon vs the sayings of pharoah amen em ope is pretty clear it looks exactly like the sayings were copied.

the other stuff is questionable.

I was wondering if anyoner has seen the dvd...

or knows how "credible" ashra kwesi is...

burning flames · 06-16-2007, 03:28 PM

does anyone know articles or books about the book of joshua (conquest of canaan by hebrews) matches up with history?

Toto · 06-16-2007, 03:48 PM

Does the DVD have a name? One of these?

The Exodus from Egypt and the conquest do not match up with archeology. Read The Bible Unearthed (or via: amazon.co.uk)

There is a whole "Afrocentric" movement, which aims to shore up the self esteem of Africans and African Americans by claiming that everything in western civilization came from Africa, including Christianity and Judaism.

The credibility of this whole area is low, although many scholars acknowledge that there have been some ideological problems in past scholarship. See Heresy in the University: The Black Athena Controversy and the Responsibilities of American Intellectuals (or via: amazon.co.uk)

burning flames · 06-16-2007, 04:26 PM

yes it was the "african history vs biblical myuths" part one and two

Toto · 06-16-2007, 04:52 PM

youtube African Origin of Judaism - pretty bizarro anti_semitic stuff.

burning flames · 06-16-2007, 05:57 PM

is he incorrect in these tidbits?

burning flames · 06-16-2007, 06:06 PM

hes gotta be. he says the council of jamnia in 90 AD was attended by so called jews from the caucus mountains. but in the section before he quoted a movie that placed the spread of judaism to the khazar was in 800 AD!!!

Toto · 06-16-2007, 06:11 PM

That's a good observation. Ashra Kwesi appears to be a motivational speaker, not a scholar.

burning flames · 06-16-2007, 06:12 PM

he did have some very interesting points in the video though, particular when discussing adam and eve and the exodus out of egypt.

Toto · 06-16-2007, 06:14 PM

Adam and Ever are mythology and the Exodus never happened. What did he say about them?

06-16-2007, 03:27 PM	#1
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	ashra kwesi - african history vs biblical myths just wached this dvd by ashra kwesi. its very interesting, he thinks that the old testament stories are largely copied from ancient egypt. I think the similarities between ancient kemet stories and the bible stories are definitely interesting. But I dont know where he credits knowing that the stuff was really directly copied. it makes a LOT of sense and its not by any means a crazy assumption. infact one point, the wisdom of king solomon vs the sayings of pharoah amen em ope is pretty clear it looks exactly like the sayings were copied. the other stuff is questionable. I was wondering if anyoner has seen the dvd... or knows how "credible" ashra kwesi is...

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06-16-2007, 03:28 PM	#2
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	does anyone know articles or books about the book of joshua (conquest of canaan by hebrews) matches up with history?

06-16-2007, 03:48 PM	#3
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Does the DVD have a name? One of these? The Exodus from Egypt and the conquest do not match up with archeology. Read The Bible Unearthed (or via: amazon.co.uk) There is a whole "Afrocentric" movement, which aims to shore up the self esteem of Africans and African Americans by claiming that everything in western civilization came from Africa, including Christianity and Judaism. The credibility of this whole area is low, although many scholars acknowledge that there have been some ideological problems in past scholarship. See Heresy in the University: The Black Athena Controversy and the Responsibilities of American Intellectuals (or via: amazon.co.uk)

06-16-2007, 04:26 PM	#4
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	yes it was the "african history vs biblical myuths" part one and two

06-16-2007, 04:52 PM	#5
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	youtube African Origin of Judaism - pretty bizarro anti_semitic stuff.

06-16-2007, 05:57 PM	#6
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	is he incorrect in these tidbits?

06-16-2007, 06:06 PM	#7
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	hes gotta be. he says the council of jamnia in 90 AD was attended by so called jews from the caucus mountains. but in the section before he quoted a movie that placed the spread of judaism to the khazar was in 800 AD!!!

06-16-2007, 06:11 PM	#8
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	That's a good observation. Ashra Kwesi appears to be a motivational speaker, not a scholar.

06-16-2007, 06:12 PM	#9
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	he did have some very interesting points in the video though, particular when discussing adam and eve and the exodus out of egypt.

06-16-2007, 06:14 PM	#10
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Adam and Ever are mythology and the Exodus never happened. What did he say about them?

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