Clouseau

'Here' is this thread. And IIDB too, I expect. And how is this notion Biblical criticism anyway?

Toto

Threads may concern the outside world. And what did you mean by "It does not happen in most Western countries" if you had some other meaning of "here?"

The question of the meaning and historical import of the words in the Bible has to be Biblical criticism. How is it NOT Biblical criticism?

Clouseau

Indeed, but in that case, it did not.

'Here' is not equivalent to 'most Western countries'.

Indeed, but that is not relevant.

Toto

Clouseau: The above post is totally non-responsive. When you use "here" as parallel to "most Western countries," here must refer to something in the same category as Western countries. And why is the last sentence not relevant?

spin

One has to wonder WTF Clouseau is doing here (on the forum). He shows no interest in discussing BC&H. I don't remember seeing a single reasoned argument for any position he espouses, no attempts at elucidation of text or history, no unloaded questions. The responses above are typical of his involvement on the forum: disagreement and dissent, yet no substance to back it up. Note the pedantry in "'Here' is not equivalent to 'most Western countries'." After complaining about an interpretation of his words which sought to pin down the meaning of "Here" in the instance, Clouseau simply stated that it was not the correct interpretation without stating what he claimed the correct interpretation was. This seems to be endemic of his lack of interest in communicating, which I would think was essential to participation on the forum. If this is all he wants to do, he should move on to greener pastures where obstructionism and simple disagreement might be more welcome.

Clouseau, please consider how you would react to someone who crashes your party only to be a bad guest. You'd be most welcome if you participated as a lot of the other christians who come here do.


spin

Clouseau

Let me know when I do that.

The question of the meaning and historical import of the words in the Bible is not under discussion.

Amaleq13

Really? How else could one possible compile a list of alleged absurdities in the Bible without questioning the meaning and historical import of the words?

And why, if the meaning of the words is not relevant, would you introduce the idea of allegory as though it was relevant?

Clouseau

We're back to that now? That's fine by me. I thought maybe the subject had been switched to religious politics because that cause had been lost and won.

Figurative sense is not dependent on semantics.

spin

Unless you deal with the meanings of the words, you can't get to a figurative sense. Doh!

Amaleq13

Recognizing a non-literal meaning is not dependent upon studying the meaning of words?

It just magically occurs to you, I suppose.