Garabato

At least it does so taking in count the effect which the stretching of space has on the perception of distant information. I can only let Gerald Schoeder to speak for me:

15 billion or six days?

Today, we look at time going backward. We see 15 billion years. Looking forward from when the universe is very small - billions of times smaller - the Torah says six days. In truth, they both may be correct. What's exciting about the last few years in cosmology is we now have quantified the data to know the relationship of the "view of time" from the beginning, relative to the "view of time" today. It's not science fiction any longer. Any one of a dozen physics text books all bring the same number. The general relationship between time near the beginning and time today is a million million. That's a 1 with 12 zeros after it. So when a view from the beginning looking forward says "I'm sending you a pulse every second," would we see it every second? No. We'd see it every million million seconds. Because that's the stretching effect of the expansion of the universe.

The Torah doesn't say every second, does it? It says Six Days. How would we see those six days? If the Torah says we're sending information for six days, would we receive that information as six days? No. We would receive that information as six million million days. Because the Torah's perspective is from the beginning looking forward. Six million million days is a very interesting number. What would that be in years? Divide by 365 and it comes out to be 16 billion years. Essentially the estimate of the age of the universe. Not a bad guess for 3000 years ago.

The way these two figures match up is extraordinary. I'm not speaking as a theologian; I'm making a scientific claim. I didn't pull these numbers out of hat. That's why I led up to the explanation very slowly, so you can follow it step-by-step. Now we can go one step further. Let's look at the development of time, day-by-day, based on the expansion factor. Every time the universe doubles, the perception of time is cut in half. Now when the universe was small, it was doubling very rapidly. But as the universe gets bigger, the doubling time gets exponentially longer. This rate of expansion is quoted in "The Principles of Physical Cosmology," a textbook that is used literally around the world

A more complete version of the argument can be seen in the full article.

Comments?

mrunicycler

His claim to making his case in a 'step-by-step' fashion could have much more explicit steps.

IOW, it's like my high school calc teacher used to tell me:

"I need to see your work".

-Jay-

Or it could be that the cosmologically unsophisticated early Hebrews who wrote the Genesis accounts meant six literal 24 hour days.

regards,

NinJay

mrunicycler

Well, yeah, there is that

Didn't mean to imply that I was giving this article any credence...it's just hard to refute something so vaguely worded.

Minimalist

Apologetic horseshit.

Kosh

By that analogy, the earth would have been created on like day 4 or 5. But Genesis has it on Day 1!

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Amaleq13

Wasted effort, IMO. The only way the story makes sense with regard to the establishment of the sabbath is if the author intended a day to mean a day. This has been argued before, repeatedly, and I've found spin's explanation convincing.

I think this thread is a good place to read it:

Fundie Genesis Challenge

Shadowy Man

I'd like to know the origin of this figure.

So, is he trying to say that looking back we see the universe looking roughly 15 billion years old, but if we were at the beginning looking forward it would look to be six days? At what point do days go from being million million days to just days?

Headache

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Bartender

I just threw up in my throat a little bit.