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Old 07-05-2012, 12:32 PM   #61
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Abe - you're making up your own definitions again. I don't see the point of continuing
Shoot, I thought the debate was just starting to get useful.
We've been through it all before. You want to make a subjective evaluation of the evidence and claim that your preferred theory is the more probable explanation of the evidence, and then you move from more probable to "anyone who disagrees with me is in denial and worthy of mockery."

Maybe someone else sees the point in this exercise.
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Again, the HJ argument itself show that people of antiquity did NOT need an actual human Jesus--they ONLY needed a story that was BELIEVABLE.

What do HJers TODAY use to claim Jesus did exist???

They use the very same stories in the Bible that people of antiquity BELIEVED 1800 years ago.

HJers TODAY read the NT and BELIEVE IT.

HJers will NOT ever come in contact with a Real Human Jesus.


HJers claim that Jesus did exist is based on their BELIEF of the Bible stories of Jesus.

Christians and Fundamentalists have been doing the SAME thing for 1800 years.

The Jesus cult of antiquity started the VERY same way as TODAY --BELIEF in a story.

All the DATED TEXTS of the Jesus story are 2nd century or about 100 years AFTER Jesus supoosedly lived.

HJers TODAY and NO different to BELIEVERS of antiquity.

ALL BELIEVE the Bible story of Jesus is fundamentally TRUE without ever seeing a Human Jesus.

The HJ argument PROVES that BELIEF is all that is needed to claim Jesus existed in antiquity.
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Shoot, I thought the debate was just starting to get useful.
We've been through it all before. You want to make a subjective evaluation of the evidence and claim that your preferred theory is the more probable explanation of the evidence, and then you move from more probable to "anyone who disagrees with me is in denial and worthy of mockery."

Maybe someone else sees the point in this exercise.
OK, have a great weekend.
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A poster called Diogenes the Cynic claims the Gospels are "Akin to Bullshit reenactments" and it is from these "bullshit reenactments that ApostateAbe derived his Gospel.

ApostateAbe seems to BELIEVE the Bible and have Removed the assumed "bullshit reenactments" for his OWN fabricated personal Gospel.

But, why did ApostateAbe invent his NEW Gospel???

AposstateAbe NEVER personally met Jesus.

There is NO evidence for his Gospel but he wants people to believe his invention.

Well, that is EXACTLY and PRECISELY what happened in antiquity.

Whatever was BELIEVED to be bullshit reenactments were DISCARDED and NEW Gospels were composed with Plausible reenactments in the 2nd century of Later.

Why did people of antiquity change the Jesus story???

Because they MOST likely wanted people to believe a NEW Gospel.

Now, imagine what would happen if people Begin to Believe in the ApostateAbe's Jesus then we will have a New Religion free of Bullshit reenactments and FULL of Belief.!!
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AposstateAbe NEVER personally met Jesus.
Jesus lives inside the cover of the New and Strange Canonical Testament.

We can meet him whenever we open its pages.

Amen.
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Jesus lives inside the cover of the New and Strange Canonical Testament.

We can meet him whenever we open its pages.

Amen.
ApostateAbe has his OWN personal Jesus story. He no longer needs the Canonical New Testament.

ApostateAbe does NOT accept the NEW testament as wholly credible.
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