Bill Snedden

I just can't understand why everyone seems so skeptical. The arc is perfectly clear in this image. Granted, the circumference of the circle to which this arc belongs must be rather large (as the arc is only a few degrees short of a straight line), but still, it's clearly.....

Oh, you meant arK......well, that's just a load of bollocks...

Nevermind....

budgie

That's one of the websites I've been looking for.

Anyone know anything about neolithic metallurgy? I am quite skeptical that titanium would have been used as the primary alloy ingredient in those rivets at that time. I thought that copper and iron (steel) were the primary metals of choice. Please enlighten me.

-jim

gravitybow

Wait a minute! Wait a minute!
What the hell is all this "bow" business? Ark advocates today have reconstructed a boxlike vessel based on Biblical descriptions, something like this:



That's the only way to justfiy the incredible tonnage and other rationalizations (number of juvenile "kinds", food storage, etc.) in all their presentations. I attended a lecture last year entitled "The True Story of Noah's Ark" that analyzed an identical craft, very similar to the analysis at this site, which reaffirms that:

Once you start claiming that the Ark is now bow-shaped, all their zany measurements and rationalizations are torpedoed because the volume of a bowed craft constrained by the dimensions given in the Bible is considerably less than a box built to the same specs.

A bowed craft matching this description is 75 feet at one point: the center of the deck. After that, it tapers to a point forward and aft of the center. Same from top to bottom as it tapers: wide on top, narrow on bottom. A helluvalot less room than a box.

Hasn't anyone pointed this out, yet?

Heurismus

Well apart from French anthropological theory that star travellers gave the Dogon the secrets of iron; this might help-

http://www.sron.nl/~jheise/akkadian/prehistory.html

It is Mesopotamian, therefore it should be relevant.

But Titanium!!? Steel!!? See Bessemer et al. I really don't know what these people are on. LSD by any chance?

Heurismus

Great post gravitybow. It's obviously a houseboat. Now it's where's the houseboat game. Do you think God played a harmonica by any chance? It's either a musical instrument or a cheesegrater. 'Blessed are the cheesemakers'.

gravitybow

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it looks like a harmonica.

See the steps attached to the end? I think that's for when Noah's finished skiing.

budgie

Thanks Heurismus. Lead, silver, then copper and all of the copper alloys (bronzes). Gosh, I think I learned something today.

-jim

"Don't Mess with the Potamian." said the man from Ur.

Heurismus

How many Evinrude's or Mercuries do you think powered this skii boat then? Must be inboard/outboard, but I haven't got a catalogue from the period so we can only guess. As to the steps, that's a good point; bloody small ark then isn't it? I still think it's a harmonica masquerading as a detailed line drawing. No doubt Hannibal and his brother Hasdrubal were inspired by the fact that Noah could get his elephants off of Ararat.

As stated in my first post on this thread. If this turns out to be a hoax, which I confidently state it is; it would not disprove the 'validity' of an Ark, but it would prove what inexactitudinarians these people are.
And-
:notworthy Yeah, don't mess with him, hippo shit is baaaad shit man. Stronger than Acapulco Gold!!!

gravitybow

Yeah, I suppose the Ark is pornography for Biblicists: don't have to define it, just know it when we see it.

mrmoderate

No, I said "if" they get the oportunity to study this "and" it is a boat, there will be enough physical evidence to prove it. If it came out any differently I am sorry. I enjoy this kind of stuff but don't put any religous notions to any of it.

As far as the biblical diluge, I have to wonder about what was being referred to as the world. Since the bible is the story of the relationship between God and His chosen people would it not be possible that the usage of "the world" pertaiined to the Hebrew world as they knew it? Wouldn't it be possible that there was a period of great rains that flooded a large area of the Middle East at one time similar to the annual flooding that has created waddies?