spamandham

You didn't say it was part of the Bible, but your answer was in response to the direct question "What Bible verse(s) are you basing this 'levitation' claim on?".

Since you can't even detect sarcasm when you read it, no wonder you've interpreted the Bible in such an absurd and simpleminded way.

IBelieveInHymn

I don't know if they were wrong, but how can you deny the words of God? Obey him, love him with all of your heart and soul, and he will be your LORD forever. I really don't think God would allow Satan to interfer with a personal relationship with Him. Satan was given a ton of power, but also keep in mind.. God gave him limited power. I don't think Satan has the power to trick mankind into thinking they are saved by God when they are not.

People who believe in God are saved through Christ, and these people feel the presence of Christ within them. Satan does not have the love and compassion Christ has for us. Satan is full of hatred and evil.

No, Jesus is not part of the deception. Jesus was saying, many people claim they are followers of me, but they follow unrighteousness.

You have to understand what Jesus was saying for you decide he was an evil force out to deceive the world.

Why are you claiming Jesus was a false messiah?

IBelieveInHymn

You said simpleminded. I haven't heard that since I was in 9th grade. awesome!!! :wave:

Sai

.......sits on hands to avoid the obvious snarkisms that present themselves.........

Deus Ex

You have offered no proof that a God ever spoke those words.

IBelieveInHymn

What do you mean? I have proof. Open your Bible. There are tons of verses that begin with, "The LORD said." :Cheeky:

Toto

But the only source that describes this as levitation is Graham Hancock, in his Sign and the Seal: The Quest for the Lost Ark of the Covenant (or via: amazon.co.uk). Are you just repeating something you read in Graham Hancock? Can you find the original quote?

Legends of the Jews

In any case, the Jews do not take their legends as literal factual history. Why would you?

Toto

Please cut out the sarcasm. If you don't think this is something that can be discussed, just say so, and post somewhere else.

semiopen

Mainmonides, among others, has pointed out that God is incorporeal. Therefore when we read "God said" this is substantially different than some human speaking. The same of course is true for any human/animal type body part, action or emotion attributed to God, such as his hand, walking, anger, etc

Your reply to Deus Ex is therefore not well thought out.

This is ok of course, but if we look at the title of this thread; I wonder who has shown a better understanding of the bible in this discussion, you or the atheists.

Failte

I've read the whole thread in the last day or so, and it was this statement by IBIH that was the final straw. How illuminating. How absolutely consistent with my experiences of believers as liars and frauds.

"I will have a reasonable answer for it" is apparently code for "I'll lie and twist things and equivocate until you give up and change the subject". Wow.

Thanks to all of you have had the patience to address these statements and point me to actual sources and facts. Bravo.