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mountainman · 12-25-2006, 10:57 PM

Register of purported Citations and/or Correspondence
between representatives of christianity and non-
christian representatives of contemporary government
in the pre-nicene epoch (000 to 325 CE).

Can anyone think of a more concise description for
the following tabulation? Essentially all I am trying
to achieve is the indexation of citations of contact
between christianity and the external world in the
early period. (ie: I am not concerned with intra-
christian communiques, or disputes between contending
heretics and mainstreamers)

It should be noted, as was dealt with in an earlier thread,
that all citations from the first century are treated as
fraudulent, or fictitious.

COL1 = Century
COL2 = Date where known
COL3 = Description of correspondence

1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript
1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas
1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus
1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas
1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate
1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate,
1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE)
1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution"
1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews)

2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV)
2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan
2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript)
2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius
2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia
2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia
2nd - 167 - M.Antonius "christian obstinacy" reference (Meditations, 11:3)
2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Rescript?)
2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion")
2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antonius ?)

3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus"
3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome.
3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251)
3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258

4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions
4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius)

Can anyone add any more?
(eg: Perhaps Celsus belongs here)

DCHindley · 01-24-2007, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainman

Register of purported Citations and/or Correspondence
between representatives of christianity and non-
christian representatives of contemporary government
in the pre-nicene epoch (000 to 325 CE).

Can anyone think of a more concise description for
the following tabulation? Essentially all I am trying
to achieve is the indexation of citations of contact
between christianity and the external world in the
early period.

Can anyone add any more? (eg: Perhaps Celsus belongs here)

How about Acts? It is addressed to someone (Most Excellent Theophilus) in the form of an apology "explaining" the early history of Christianity.

It is undated, unfortunately, and we do not know who Theophilus was. As for date, I'd put it in early 2nd century, since I am inclined to agree with those who see reflections of Josephus's Antiquities (ca. 95 CE).

Dave Hindley

GakuseiDon · 01-24-2007, 05:40 AM

Lucian, around 160 CE.

S.C.Carlson · 01-24-2007, 06:57 AM

David, are you aware that mountainman's position is that all the ante-Nicene literature was forged/interpolated by Eusebius and Lactantius?

mountainman · 02-07-2007, 06:02 PM

COL1 = Century
COL2 = Date where known
COL3 = Description of correspondence

Hyperlink shows Philosopher Jay's recent article ...

1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript
1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas
1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus
1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas
1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate
1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate,
1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE)
1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution"
1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews)

2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV)
2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan
2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript)
2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius
2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia
2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia
2nd - 160? - Lucian
2nd - 166 - Martydom of Justin Martyr at Rome
2nd - 167 - M.Antonius "christian obstinacy" reference (Meditations, 11:3)
2nd - 167 - Martydom of Polycarp at Smyrna
2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Rescript?)
2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion")
2nd - 175 - Celsus
2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 177 - Letter "Gallic christians" - Martydom of Blandina & Pothinus
2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antonius ?)

3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus"
3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome.
3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251)
3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258

4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions
4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius)

mountainman · 02-07-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.C.Carlson

David, are you aware that mountainman's position is that all the ante-Nicene literature was forged/interpolated by Eusebius and Lactantius?

Stephen, are you aware that I have assumed this position in order
to satisfy myself that it can be refuted. I dont really like the idea
any better than you, or the next person, but the logic of the
situation demands a scholarly appraisal of the possibility that our
"dear friend" Eusebius, did not report to us the facts of antiquity.

mountainman · 03-18-2007, 10:16 PM

Porphyry, Mani and Dura-Europa have been added to the third century,
Celsus to the second. What other citations exist in respect to the
historical existence of "the tribe of christians" in the prenicene
epoch?

COL1 = Century
COL2 = Date where known
COL3 = Description of correspondence

Hyperlink shows Philosopher Jay's recent article ...

1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript
1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas
1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus
1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas
1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate
1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate,
1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE)
1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution"
1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews)

2nd - XXX - Papyrii fragments (Dated via paleography
2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV)
2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan
2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript)
2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius
2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia
2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia
2nd - 160? - Lucian
2nd - 166 - Martydom of Justin Martyr at Rome
2nd - 167 - M.Antonius "christian obstinacy" reference (Meditations, 11:3)
2nd - 167 - Martydom of Polycarp at Smyrna
2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Rescript?)
2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion")
2nd - 175 - Celsus
2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 177 - Letter "Gallic christians" - Martydom of Blandina & Pothinus
2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antonius ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antonius ?)

3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus"
3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome.
3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251)
3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258
3rd - 258? - Dura-Europa "house church" conjecture.
3rd - 276 - Mani, the Sassanian "sage" (made to appear "christian")
3rd - 299 - Porphyry's violent anti-christian polemic

4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions
4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius)[/QUOTE]

mountainman · 03-28-2007, 05:01 PM

Citations to the existence of the Pre-Nicene "tribe of christians"
from the first three centuries. (Updated)

COL1 = Century
COL2 = Date where known
COL3 = Description of correspondence

1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript
1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas
1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus
1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas
1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate
1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate,
1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE)
1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution"
1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews)

2nd - XXX - Papyrii fragments (Dated via paleography
2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV)
2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan
2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript)
2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius
2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia
2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia
2nd - 166 - Martydom of Justin Martyr at Rome
2nd - 167 - M.Antoninus "christian" ref (Med, 11:3)-INTERPOLATION
2nd - 167 - Martydom of Polycarp at Smyrna
2nd - 169 - Lucian (Life of Peregrine)
2nd - 174 - M.Antoninus (Rescript?)
2nd - 174 - M.Antoninus (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion")
2nd - 175 - Celsus
2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antoninus ?)
2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antoninus ?)
2nd - 177 - Letter "Gallic christians" - Martydom of Blandina & Pothinus
2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antoninus ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antoninus ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antoninus ?)
2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antoninus ?)
2nd - 180? - Lucian (Alexander the Prophet)

3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus"
3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome.
3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251)
3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258
3rd - 258? - Dura-Europa "house church" conjecture.
3rd - 276 - Mani, the Sassanian "sage" (made to appear "christian")

4rd - 301 - Porphyry's violent anti-christian polemic
4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions
4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius)

Clivedurdle · 03-29-2007, 07:45 AM

Various letters of Paul to and from Seneca? I assume you want a list of everything including forgeries, and then we can sift those.

Does ECW cover this?

Edict of Milan is about religious tolerance - does it mention xianity?

mountainman · 03-29-2007, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

Various letters of Paul to and from Seneca? I assume you want a list of everything including forgeries, and then we can sift those.

That's roughly the idea. There should in theory be a finite list
of these citations capable of being indexed in a chronological
order such as the draft above.

Quote:

Does ECW cover this?

The data is probably there but not specific to this "view"
which seeks to identify only the non-christian references
to christianity and/or the communications of christians to
the community of the Roman empire at large during the
pre-Nicene epoch.

Quote:

Edict of Milan is about religious tolerance - does it mention xianity?

This is just a brief chronological placemark for the appearance
of Constantine into the picture, no more at present.

12-25-2006, 10:57 PM	#1
mountainman Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Falls Creek, Oz. Posts: 11,192	Register of prenicene citations re: "christianity" Register of purported Citations and/or Correspondence between representatives of christianity and non- christian representatives of contemporary government in the pre-nicene epoch (000 to 325 CE). Can anyone think of a more concise description for the following tabulation? Essentially all I am trying to achieve is the indexation of citations of contact between christianity and the external world in the early period. (ie: I am not concerned with intra- christian communiques, or disputes between contending heretics and mainstreamers) It should be noted, as was dealt with in an earlier thread, that all citations from the first century are treated as fraudulent, or fictitious. COL1 = Century COL2 = Date where known COL3 = Description of correspondence 1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript 1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas 1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus 1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas 1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate 1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate, 1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE) 1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution" 1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews) 2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV) 2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan 2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript) 2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius 2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia 2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia 2nd - 167 - M.Antonius "christian obstinacy" reference (Meditations, 11:3) 2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Rescript?) 2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion") 2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antonius ?) 3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus" 3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome. 3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251) 3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258 4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions 4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius) Can anyone add any more? (eg: Perhaps Celsus belongs here)

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01-24-2007, 05:40 AM	#3
GakuseiDon Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,714	Lucian, around 160 CE.

01-24-2007, 06:57 AM	#4
S.C.Carlson Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,307	David, are you aware that mountainman's position is that all the ante-Nicene literature was forged/interpolated by Eusebius and Lactantius?

02-07-2007, 06:02 PM	#5
mountainman Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Falls Creek, Oz. Posts: 11,192	COL1 = Century COL2 = Date where known COL3 = Description of correspondence Hyperlink shows Philosopher Jay's recent article ... 1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript 1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas 1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus 1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas 1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate 1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate, 1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE) 1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution" 1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews) 2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV) 2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan 2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript) 2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius 2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia 2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia 2nd - 160? - Lucian 2nd - 166 - Martydom of Justin Martyr at Rome 2nd - 167 - M.Antonius "christian obstinacy" reference (Meditations, 11:3) 2nd - 167 - Martydom of Polycarp at Smyrna 2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Rescript?) 2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion") 2nd - 175 - Celsus 2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 177 - Letter "Gallic christians" - Martydom of Blandina & Pothinus 2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antonius ?) 3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus" 3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome. 3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251) 3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258 4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions 4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius)

03-18-2007, 10:16 PM	#7
mountainman Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Falls Creek, Oz. Posts: 11,192	Porphyry, Mani and Dura-Europa have been added to the third century, Celsus to the second. What other citations exist in respect to the historical existence of "the tribe of christians" in the prenicene epoch? COL1 = Century COL2 = Date where known COL3 = Description of correspondence Hyperlink shows Philosopher Jay's recent article ... 1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript 1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas 1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus 1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas 1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate 1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate, 1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE) 1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution" 1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews) 2nd - XXX - Papyrii fragments (Dated via paleography 2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV) 2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan 2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript) 2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius 2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia 2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia 2nd - 160? - Lucian 2nd - 166 - Martydom of Justin Martyr at Rome 2nd - 167 - M.Antonius "christian obstinacy" reference (Meditations, 11:3) 2nd - 167 - Martydom of Polycarp at Smyrna 2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Rescript?) 2nd - 174 - M.Antonius (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion") 2nd - 175 - Celsus 2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 177 - Letter "Gallic christians" - Martydom of Blandina & Pothinus 2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antonius ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antonius ?) 3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus" 3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome. 3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251) 3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258 3rd - 258? - Dura-Europa "house church" conjecture. 3rd - 276 - Mani, the Sassanian "sage" (made to appear "christian") 3rd - 299 - Porphyry's violent anti-christian polemic 4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions 4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius)[/QUOTE]

03-28-2007, 05:01 PM	#8
mountainman Contributor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Falls Creek, Oz. Posts: 11,192	Citations to the existence of the Pre-Nicene "tribe of christians" from the first three centuries. (Updated) COL1 = Century COL2 = Date where known COL3 = Description of correspondence 1st - 032 - Letter of King Agbar & Jesus' Rescript 1st - 030? - Letter from Herod Antipas 1st - 030 - letter of Publius Lentulus 1st - 032? - Letters of Caiaphas 1st - 050 - Letters of Pilate 1st - 050 - Confession of Pilate, 1st - 064 - Nero fire references (Tacit.Annals XV written 109.CE) 1st - 075 - Domitian (emp:069-079) "Persecution" 1st - 091 - Josephus Flavius (Refs in Antiquity of the Jews) 2nd - XXX - Papyrii fragments (Dated via paleography 2nd - 109 - Tacitus (references in Annals XV) 2nd - 112 - Plinius, Ep 10:97 - Pliny to Trajan 2nd - 113 - Trajan to Pliny (rescript) 2nd - 115? - Trajan's order of the Martyrdom Ignatius 2nd - 135? - Hadrian Rescript to the pro-consul of Asia 2nd - 150? - Antonius Pius (emp:138-161) to the commune of Asia 2nd - 166 - Martydom of Justin Martyr at Rome 2nd - 167 - M.Antoninus "christian" ref (Med, 11:3)-INTERPOLATION 2nd - 167 - Martydom of Polycarp at Smyrna 2nd - 169 - Lucian (Life of Peregrine) 2nd - 174 - M.Antoninus (Rescript?) 2nd - 174 - M.Antoninus (Report to Senate re: "Thundering Legion") 2nd - 175 - Celsus 2nd - 177 - Apology of Melito (to M.Antoninus ?) 2nd - 177 - Apology of Tatian (to M.Antoninus ?) 2nd - 177 - Letter "Gallic christians" - Martydom of Blandina & Pothinus 2nd - 177 - Apology of Athenagoras (to M.Antoninus ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Apollinaris (to M.Antoninus ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Theophilus (to M.Antoninus ?) 2nd - 178 - Apology of Miltiades (to M.Antoninus ?) 2nd - 180? - Lucian (Alexander the Prophet) 3rd - 202 - The "edict of Septimius Severus" 3rd - 248 - Philip Arabus, turns christian for the millenial games of Rome. 3rd - 250 - Emperor Decius - perhaps 50 executions (250/251) 3rd - 255? - Galienus' decree (via H.E.); emperor 253-258 3rd - 258? - Dura-Europa "house church" conjecture. 3rd - 276 - Mani, the Sassanian "sage" (made to appear "christian") 4rd - 301 - Porphyry's violent anti-christian polemic 4th - 303? -Diocletian - perhaps 50 executions 4th - 311 - The Edict of Milan (Constantine/Licinius)

03-29-2007, 07:45 AM	#9
Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	Various letters of Paul to and from Seneca? I assume you want a list of everything including forgeries, and then we can sift those. Does ECW cover this? Edict of Milan is about religious tolerance - does it mention xianity?

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