Jack the Bodiless

History is not silent. How else do we know that Tyre resisted Nebby for 13 years? You think we just made that up?

What really happened (again ):

Nebby's multinational armies quickly overran the mainland settlements (the "daughters in the field" mentioned by Ezekiel) as everyone expected (they were undefended). He then tried to take Tyre itself (the island), but couldn't breach the walls (it was very difficult to breach the walls of an island fortress from boats). So he besieged it for 13 years. This cut off Tyrian trade to the mainland, causing economic hardship. Eventually a compromise peace was reached, in which the Tyrians paid lip-service to Babylon and agreed to pay a small tribute in exchange for the lifting of the blockade: but Nebby never got the riches promised by Ezekiel (as Ezekiel himself later admits).

Hence Ezekiel's prophecy that Nebby would take and plunder Egypt instead. But this was apparently even more of a failure! Looks like Nebby lost a border skirmish and ran away: there is very little evidence of any battle at all, and Egypt wasn't adversely affected.

arnoldo

This is one possible explanation that unlike Ninevah, Egypt repented. The other is that Nebby simply look egyptian captives into other nations just like Nebby took Judah captive into other nations.


BTW scholars 100 years ago scoffed the accuracy of the bible because there was no historical proof of Ninevah. The only proof of Ninevah 100 years ago was in the old and new testament.

Jack the Bodiless

"Repent" of what? One non-Jewish king was being offered the kingdom of another non-Jewish king to fill his coffers. "Repenting" was not an option on the table!
How could Egypt enjoy "a period of prosperity" with no inhabitants???

The prophecy failed. It's that simple!

arnoldo

You claim Alexander the Great isn't mentioned in Ezekiel. However his actions are. Consider. Do you have historical record of this type of military action every attempted before Alexander?

Sheshonq

No, it never happened. There was no Babylonian invasion of Egypt.

Sheshonq

No, the "possible explanation" that you don't want to admit is that the prophecy failed. There is zero evidence to support any Babylonian invasion of Egypt.


That is an urban legend spread by fundamentalist christians to make their case sound stronger than it really is. In point of fact, scholars 100 years ago (and even further back than that) had independent proof of Nineveh, and weren't "scoffing", contrary to your claim.

Sheshonq

You've already been told the answer a dozen times - you keep dodging it.

The Babylonian empire was composed of many nations. Each of the subject nations was required to provide contigents of military for use by the Babylonian army. IT was a "Coalition of the Willing", comprised of elements from all over the Babylonian Empire.

The mainland suburb was destroyed by a multi-national military force -- just like all the other places that got conquered by Nebuchadnezzar -- because he was commanding a multi-national army from all over his empire.

Hint: "nation" does not mean "country". It means "ethnic group of people."

Sheshonq

Your own argument backfires in your face. If you think they were two parts of the same kingdom, then Nebuchadnezzar failed to conquer the kindgom of Tyre because he only destroyed the weaker, mainland part of it.

The stronger, well-defended part of the kingdom (according to you) was on the island - which he failed to conquer. Hence, the prophecy failed, since it predicted that he would conquer ALL of Tyre.

Sometimes it really is just *that* simple. :rolling:

Jack the Bodiless

You and sugarhitman really need to get the details of your story worked out.

Apparently the island of Tyre was to sink beneath the sea.

Certainly, Ezekiel says nothing about "the mainland city" being tossed into the sea in this manner!

arnoldo

That's what Alexander did when he tossed the mainland city into the sea to create the land bridge to the island.