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Old 11-24-2007, 02:28 PM   #21
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Are there opinions out there regarding James Tabor's "The Bible Project?"
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This is much in line with what I was looking for.

So I guess back to my OP, why don't modern translations look more like what douglas references?

Not "translating" YHWH to LORD and leaving Christ as "anointed" seem much in line with what I was thinking of.
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Most dictators have not been succeeded by their sons. Think Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Franco, all those tinpot dictators.
I don't believe "δεσπότης" appears in the NT but wouldn't those guys be that?

Oh sure ... found it, or other forms of it, in 10 places: Luk 2:29; Acts 4:24; 1 Tim 6:1,2; 2 Tim 2:21; Titus 2:9; 1 Pet 2:18; 2 Pet 2:1; Jude 1:4; Rev 6:10.

The saying in question (Mat 18:23-34), though, has BASILEUS (king, monarch). DESPOTHS (master, owner, lord) has a somewhat different range of meaning. Those spot definitions are from Timothy and Barbara Friberg as found in Bibleworks' version of the GNT. KURIOS (strictly, a substantive of the adjective ku,rioj (strong, authoritative); hence, one having legal power lord, master) pretty much means the same thing as DESPOtHS but is more, hmmmmm, "formal" and the polite way of addressing one's social superior.

DESPOTHS in the NT is used for earthly as well as heavenly masters, i.e., people such as kings and slaveowners, and in a couple of cases of the God of the bible.

The Roman emperor, in Greek, is simply called BASILEUS (king) because that is what he was. However, the emperor had a very large "household" of slaves and freedmen, spread across the entire empire, who pretty much ran the show for him. This could be extended to include retainers drawn from Roman citizens, the Roman army, and citizens of Greek cities. Egypt, for example, was the emperor's private property, run by members of his household and retainers he chose from the groups mentioned above. Anyways, this is why the pericpe in question speaks of calling his servents to account for the money entrusted to them.

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Old 11-26-2007, 01:35 AM   #23
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Just one point as dictators have been mentioned a few times here , I would say that the be accurate the best word the use when dealing with people from that time would be Tyrant and not Dictator which was a very specific legal role in Roman society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dictator
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