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Chili · 03-08-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Weiss

The Christ figure itself is symbolic and does not apply to an actual historical figure. The same applies to numerous other figures in the bible.

To say it is symbolic is to deny the essence of man after which man is created and actually is re-created to be formed (iota argument anyone?).

Chili · 03-08-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stuart shepherd

Psalm 89:9 (King James Version)
9Thou rulest the raging of the sea: when the waves thereof arise, thou stillest them.

Jeremiah 31:35 (King James Version)
35Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

When the NT writers fabricated the NT, they searched the OT for material.
If God is master of the seas, sun, moon, etc, it only seems logical that Jesus could walk on water. So that's what they wrote.

Stuart Shepherd

Oops, God is not master of the seas, sun, moon, etc. At best the Lord is and they are not the same. Besides, to give the sun for light is not the same as controlling the sun but just to give us the ability to convert sunrays into light.

The tempest here takes place in the mind of man and not beyond that.

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