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Chili · 01-31-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mindovermyth

Jesus preached, did miracles and gathered a following over a period of what, 1, 2, 3 or more years? Suddenly he is completely despised within the period of one week due to a VERY abrupt realisation that he did not fit the profecies? I smell a fish here. Interestingly, the way the jews are portrayed in the gosels as so vehemtly and universally condemn Jesus to his fate has given rise not only one but two rather major historical developments:

1. Of course, the rise and spread of christianity.
2. The percecution of the jewish race down millennia (i.e. christ killers).

The period is to last 42 months and no more. It is called purgatory in Catholicism where religion is brought to understanding. It must come to a sudden stop also for Catholics since neither Catholics nor Jews can enter heaven as Catholic or as Jew.

To read all about this go to Rev. 13 where the first beast came out of the sea and the second beast came out of the old earth. The first beast will be the Christian while the second beast will become the historical Jesus worshiper and act just like the ones we know today (hint, read on into Rev. 14 where they try to reform the world around them instead of their own mind where region is to come to sudden stop as in 14:13).

It lead to the rise and spread of Catholicism with Christianity being its enemy in Christendom where the example set by Jesus became par for the course.

There is no difference between Jewish persecution and Catholic persecution except that Catholics have the insight to fight back since they designed the new course. As such are they able to call the shots and deal with Christ killers as they see fit.

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More interestingly, if the gospels are truly divinely inspired, god would either have willingly inspired the writers to PORTRAY jews this way or instigated the jews to actually behave this way by sending down Jesus while fully knowing that the jews would react this way (the whole point of the exercise was his guaranteed death).

According to Catholics (at least those in charge of the Church) the Jews were fully aware that Jesus had to die lest he became the "final impostor" in Galilee (Mat.27:64) and spend the rest of his days agonizing at the foot of the cross while failing to be raised again and die nonetheless as Jew in the end without any remission of sin and the concept sin. Let me take your here to Mark where when the last Jew left he took the lion cloth with him to show that the entire purpose of the ordeal was to remove the sin nature of the Jew and Catholic after the fact (Mk.14:51-52).

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Thus god's second (or partial) goal must then have been to punish the jews for the umpteenth time in his ongoing on/off love/hate very kinky S/M relationship saga with the jewish race.

No, it was a comedy and the Jews should be might proud of being the foundation for the greatest civilization on earth. The shit you see exist only in your own mind which collectively adds to persecution if you speak out of terms or out of context with the original intent.

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Rather clever of him and definitely wicked, but hardly beyond how any corrupt powerhungry human despot of the time (or today) with average intelligence could be expected to behave. Right?

Yes it was very clever and warrants a certain degree of censorship.

Chili · 01-31-2005, 12:25 PM

To be sure, I tied Catholicism to Judaism not to gain sympathy but to show continuity.

01-31-2005, 12:25 PM	#2
Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	Chili is not complaining but rolling To be sure, I tied Catholicism to Judaism not to gain sympathy but to show continuity.

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