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Old 06-07-2008, 06:41 AM   #11
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I think that JtB in the Gospels was certainly patterned on Elijah and meant to represent Elijah.

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I was just wondering since Elijah in the books of kings went to heaven. Isn't Malachi is refering to the actual Elijah the prophet? I think the gospels are misintrepreting Malachi. He not the sprit of Elijah but Elijah himself is coming on the day of the Lord.
Yeah, but so what? We all know how interpretive this stuff is. Look at all of Paul's serons where he completely misrepresents and misinterprets scripture. A good example from Paul is his discussion of the seed of Abraham or the discussion of the slave woman and the free woman.

A part of these types of religious traditions is the appropriation and reinterpretation of existing themes.
I was replying to andrewcriddle .He was implying that the Elijah figure in Malachi was an somebody who had the sprit of Elijah instead of Elijah himself.

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But here are the JtB / Elijah parallels, from (http://www.rationalrevolution.net/ar...ospel_mark.htm):







The clincher:

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The Coming of Elijah
Mark 9:
9 As they were coming down the mountain, he ordered them to tell no one about what they had seen, until after the Son of Man had risen from the dead. 10 So they kept the matter to themselves, questioning what this rising from the dead could mean. 11 Then they asked him, 'Why do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?' 12 He said to them, 'Elijah is indeed coming first to restore all things. How then is it written about the Son of Man, that he is to go through many sufferings and be treated with contempt? 13 But I tell you that Elijah has come, and they did to him whatever they pleased, as it is written about him.'

It is here that the literary allusion from Mark 1:6 becomes important, because one has to realize from that literary allusion to 2 Kings 1:8 that John the Baptist is Elijah in order for this scene to make sense.
Yes I agree the new testament was trying to mold Jesus so he could forefull Hebrew bible. so twisted the hebrew bible to fit their agenda.
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