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benja burns · 01-01-2005, 08:20 PM

I've heard that, in the Bible, the name "Lucifer" is only mentioned once in reference to the Morning Star, a.k.a Venus, and that it is never used in reference to Satan. I've also heard that the name "Satan" doesn't refer to the devil at all, but to someone simply known as "The Adversary". So, I've got three questions:

1. Who's "The Adversary"?
2. Is there a devil such as the one we now call Satan mentioned in the Bible?
3. What about Hell? Is its existence backed up by the Bible as well?

Javaman · 01-01-2005, 08:24 PM

Without having much time to post, here's a halfway-decent starting point:
Satan: an Early History
I'm sure someone will be along to provide more.

Heurismus · 01-01-2005, 08:41 PM

And I hope this helps too-

http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/topics.htm

It is actually a very good site for info on topics like this but from the 'horse's mouth'.

Look at the second and third heading of The spiritual realm

The topics in this section deal with:-

THE HEAVENLY DIVINE COUNCIL

SATAN, THE ADVERSARY OF MANKIND

FALLEN ANGELS AND DEMONS

GENESIS 6 - WHO WERE "THE SONS OF GOD"?

WHO OR WHAT IS "THE ANTICHRIST"?

WHO IS THE "DESTROYER"?

THE GOAT FOR AZAZEL

But then there could be much better sites out there, but this helped me.

Toto · 01-01-2005, 11:51 PM

Chili digression on Lucifer, goats and spiritual fornication.

01-01-2005, 08:20 PM	#1
benja burns Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Lewistown, PA Posts: 214	Satan and Lucifer I've heard that, in the Bible, the name "Lucifer" is only mentioned once in reference to the Morning Star, a.k.a Venus, and that it is never used in reference to Satan. I've also heard that the name "Satan" doesn't refer to the devil at all, but to someone simply known as "The Adversary". So, I've got three questions: 1. Who's "The Adversary"? 2. Is there a devil such as the one we now call Satan mentioned in the Bible? 3. What about Hell? Is its existence backed up by the Bible as well?

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01-01-2005, 08:24 PM	#2
Javaman Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,708	Without having much time to post, here's a halfway-decent starting point: Satan: an Early History I'm sure someone will be along to provide more.

01-01-2005, 08:41 PM	#3
Heurismus Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: West London Posts: 2,337	And I hope this helps too- http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/topics.htm It is actually a very good site for info on topics like this but from the 'horse's mouth'. Look at the second and third heading of The spiritual realm The topics in this section deal with:- THE HEAVENLY DIVINE COUNCIL SATAN, THE ADVERSARY OF MANKIND FALLEN ANGELS AND DEMONS GENESIS 6 - WHO WERE "THE SONS OF GOD"? WHO OR WHAT IS "THE ANTICHRIST"? WHO IS THE "DESTROYER"? THE GOAT FOR AZAZEL But then there could be much better sites out there, but this helped me.

01-01-2005, 11:51 PM	#4
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Chili digression on Lucifer, goats and spiritual fornication.

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