Jimmy Higgins

I have become curious about the alleged crucifixion of Jesus. Why was he targeted by the Romans to begin with? What was he guilty of to be worthy of the death penalty? Was he actually sentenced to die? How much is known historically about the trial? Was there a trial?

I recently had a vision that made it hard to believe the Romans would give a flip about a guy that had twelve disciples and an unaccounted for number of "followers".

dog-on

Well, the story says that Jesus was crucified, was targeted by the Jews and handed over to the Romans who were convinced to give Jesus the death penalty due to the demands of an unrulely crowd, and yes, was sentenced to die as a result.

How much is known historically about the trial?

Pretty much nothing.

Tom Sawyer

Jesus was crucified because he was a weak and pathetic god who's unworthy of anyone's worship.

Imagine, if you will, that Thor was walking down the road and a bunch of Romans came along and said that they were going to nail him up on a cross. Do you think that we'd end up with a story about Thor's crucifixtion or that we'd end up with a story about Thor kicking the ass of a bunch of Romans and then going into a tavern and getting drunk? I think we'd get the latter. That's what happens when you try to crucify a real god.

aa5874

Jesus was NOT targeted by the Romans because if that was so there would be no need for him to have gone before the Sanhedrin.

In the Jesus stories, Pilate did NOT even know who Jesus was and why he was brought before him and even claimed that he FOUND NO FAULT with Jesus.

It is mere Propaganda that the Romans targeted Jesus.

Ironically, Jesus TARGETED the Jews, especially the Pharisees, and call them Devils so they just had to get RID of him and by doing so the Jews FULFILLED so-called Prophecy.

Juststeve

As a skeptic I would have to say that there is insufficient information available to answer your questions. Was Jesus crucified? I would say yes. Exactly why a real skeptic would have to say I don't know.

Steve

Jimmy Higgins

So why the death penalty then? Or was Jesus even sentenced to death at all? I apologize, my NT skills are no where near my Genesis skills.

Sheshbazzar

The tale is a bit silly as the Roman's authorities supposedly found him innocent of all charges... But went ahead and executed him anyway, just to satisfy a mob.

It does not seem credible that Pilate would have simply knuckled under to the mob, much less engaged in playing a game that allowed the mob to choose which person would be let off the hook, letting a known criminal go free and executing an innocent man whom he knew next to nothing about.

Tom Sawyer

Why not? I can't imagine that human rights of a barbarian (if the word "human" would even properly apply to someone who wasn't even a Roman citizen) would have been seen as a more important factor than tossing a bone to an angry crowd so that their caterwauling wouldn't interrupt Pilate's afternoon nap.

aa5874

If you want to know what happened in the Jesus stories in any version then you MUST read them.

This is what people do when they want to find out what is written in books.

The Jesus stories are found in Existing Codices.

You are NOT allowed to remove, alter, or add anything to them.

The story is rather simply and extremely easy to understand.

Godless Raven

Hmmmm...your first statement seems to completely disqualify a story travelling from word of mouth...which would actually disqualify most of the bibles traditions that were passed on orally.

Actually, that is not true. I can tell you pretty much what the book Tess of the D'Ubervilles is about (in fact I aced a highschool exam on the topic) yet I've never read a page of the book or seen the movie version.

There's a large variety of jesus stories, not all are confined to the chosen NT writings and also lmfao@ExistingCodices

I agree, the story is incredibly simple. So simple, it is as if whomever made it up, put next to zero thought in to believability.