Chili

Yes and no and this depends on the prevailing mood of Lord God wherefore JBap comes and goes as 'he' wills . . . or might never come except to Catholics as God wills. It is well known that "I, the Lord do all these things" and here John makes reference to a particular moodswing that is made by the Lord (who is the non-rational animal man and is why John is from the netherworld which is our soul) who intuitly knows (intuition is the memory of our soul) that rational sense can be made out of the indoctrinated religious metaphors that have been tied down in our soul. These would be retained by the disciples of John as stated in Jn.1:35 and is the reason why these disciples parted company from John the Baptist and immediatly followed Jesus to his home = awakening (note here that realization must precede awakening, but we are past that here in John).

I guess that this is the reason why infant Baptism is the norm in Catholicism where all or most of the indoctrination is done before the faculty of reason takes over in the child. I can add here that this indoctination method should be reinforced by [Seneca's] piety to help ensure that they are are deeply engrained in the soul of God's children. Based on this perspective there is not much sense in trying to breed the devil and feed him grass hoppers afterwards and a good example of this action is to make a public declaration of faith at the age of reason (which is the equivalent of engaging the angle of ligth) and then feed him bible passages afterwards so he can light up our day . . . each and every day in which case there is not even time left for John to 'make his voice known.'

Sorry but I did not mean for this to become a new tread. It was just a post since I had made a hint that John was Lord God, or close to that.