DoubtingDave

This.


I also challenge to rebute the video and other anti missionary works.

jdl

This has nothing to do with the quality of the translation.

Joseph

sotto voce

How does it do that?

How about a return to the OP subject?

DoubtingDave

Ok. Please provide proof from the Hebrew scriptures that Jesus is there.

sotto voce

Are you going to pay me?

This is not the OP subject, which, I remind you, is 'How Christianity Distorts the Jewish Texts'. Now that's a serious allegation, as well as aggressive circularity, so it's obviously for the alleger to do the work, not to expect others to do it for him. That means actually typing or pasting evidence; in this case, references or quotes from the Hebrew texts. We have so far had only one offered. If there are no more of them, we can consider this thread closed; and the OP statement false.

Toto

Very funny

This is one of those topics that never closes. You cannot proclaim victory just by challenging your opponents to produce a proof on your time table.

You can start with Jews for Judaism FAQ on Missionary Claims and Jewish Responses. The section on the "Suffering Servant" references a number of Hebrew texts that Christians typically quote to claim that Jesus was foretold in Jewish scripture.

I'm sure that you have some totally unconvincing response to all of them.

sotto voce

If there's no reference/quote, de facto, it's over.

Toto

I gave you some references, so it's not over. Do you have trouble following links?

Toto

eta: if you do, here are the topics under "suffering servant"

1 Did Israel suffer primarily because of its own sins?
2 What is the meaning of "And his grave was set with the wicked, and with the rich in his deaths"?
3 Why do Jews reject the Christian claim that "And his grave was set with the wicked,..."
4 What is meant in Isaiah 53:8 by: "For he was cut off out of the land of the living"?
5 What is meant in Isaiah 53:8 by: "And his life's history who is able to relate?"
6 Does "By oppression and judgment he was taken away," refer to Jesus?
7 Did Jews believe the suffering servant was the messiah?
8 How does Isaiah 53:8 show that the death of Jesus should not be considered as atonement for all
9 According to Isaiah 53:8, why does the servant of the Lord suffer?
10 What does lamo mean in Isaiah 53:8?
11 Was Jesus "stricken by his enemies"?
12 Does "humbled himself and opened not his mouth" describe Jesus?
13 Does "despised and we esteemed him not" describe Jesus?
14 Does "no form nor comeliness" describe Jesus?
15 Portion of the great --- he has nothing?
16 Does "He shall see see, prolong days" appy to Jesus?
17 Did Jesus fulfill the role of the asham, "guilt-offering,"?
18 Does Isaiah 53:10 (If he would ...) apply to Jesus?
19 How can Jews say that the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 refers to the Jewish people?
20 Did Jesus fulfill Isaiah 53:7
21 Is it true that Jews interpreted Isaiah 53 as referring to the Messiah before Rashi?
22 What did Jesus (allegedly God) give up in dying a human death?
23 Who is the suffering servant of the Lord?
24 Who is the narrator in Isaiah 53?

sotto voce

A link is not a reference.