Monad

Can someone please tell me what is the consensus (if any) among YEC's regarding the Genesis timescale? I know they believe the Earth to be approx 6,000 years old so when, on that timeline, were the significant events mentioned in Genesis. I'm looking for dates for events like:

Eden
The Fall
Cain and Abel
The Flood
The tower of Babel
Abraham
Moses and the Ten Commandments
Exodus
First Temple

thankyou

Roland

The Flood is generally pegged at around 2400 B.C.

But you can work it out for yourself using the ages in the begats sections of Genesis.

Creation week occurs at around 4000 BC, give or take a few years, then work your way up.

Check out this nutcase timeline here:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/study...ine/index.html

Werbert

I can't find Jesus anywhere on that timeline. Such an important figure, you would think they would want to point out when he lived.

And they got the birth date of Julius Caesar wrong.

Keith&Co.

Jesus' nametag is a big red cross between 4BC and 100 AD.

Monad

Thankyou. Looking at it this way helps expose many of the absurdities of this "theory". So we have approximately 1,000 - 1,500 years between "The Fall" and "The Flood" and yet we are told the creatures Noah saved were "created kinds" and at the same time caused the majority of the fossil record (can't be both now can it?).

Then all human life apart from Noah's family is murdered by god and yet only 100 years later we have the Tower of Babel which supposedly led to the diversification of the world population (what like all 100 or so of them??). And then 100 years after that (well by their timescale which is wrong) we have the founding of Egypt and 100 after that the Assyrians (seems they forgot Sumeria) - where did all these people suddenly come from?

Roland

The best part is that it puts Noah's worldwide flood right smack dab in the middle of Egypt's great pyramid-building era.

Of course, the apologist's response to that is to claim that the Egyptologists are wrong on their dates, since we just know the Bible couldn't be wrong.

Headache

My little problem is of course, the little tidbit about people living to they are 6-7-800 years old.

More divine magic, I guess, but far from facts.

Clouseau

Creation definitely took place in 4004 BC, according to the original YECs (in October, on a Monday, according to one), but this has been stretched back to some vague time by some YECs today, about 10 000 years ago. Even this date is utterly absurd, of course.

But most YECs will agree to a date of the Noachic flood at 2350 BC. This was actually more than a flood, because YECs have to take account of geological movements, so the flood was accompanied by sudden, vast volcanic eruptions which, through tremendous temperatures and toxic emissions, would have wiped out all life on earth but for a few tough bacteria. Then there is rapid cooling for the Ice Ages to follow, all in time for the pyramids and Stonehenge etc. Even Walt Disney would have paused at that sort of idea.

I could go on, but surely one can see that these guys would get psychiatric treatment if the medics did not know that they are religious.

Dean Anderson

If you are interested in exactly where the numbers come from to support those dates, here is a table I put together showing how each event is specifically related to another event in the Biblical text.

The reason I end up with a slightly different start date to the "classic" Bishop Ussher date of 4004 BCE (I end up with 4150 BCE) is that Ussher did some stretching and squeezing in order to fit the later dates in with known archaeology at that time - whereas I have completely ignored archaeology (and geology and cosmology!) and treated the Bible as being simply true instead.

David B

I thought Ussher did some bending and stretching to give a thousand year days in the mind of god, biblical reasons for thinking Jesus couldn't have been born after 4 BC.

No?

David B