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Old 01-04-2009, 02:09 PM   #801
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ok, I think you have summed up your position. good talking to you.
Lol, you could say that... but then you are still stuck slaving your life away, and slaving away itt horribly. Go hit something if it makes you feel better, instead of trying to insist that you actually know what you are talking about, except the bad choices you have made and the bad circumstances you have allowed yourself to get into and now are a slave to.
it is interesting how concerned you were over slaves from 3000 years ago but when you have decided that I am in a similar condition, you have nothing but piss and vinegar and are assured whatever bad circumstances you feel I am in are of my own making and it is best if I learn my lesson the hard way. doesn't that seem strange to you?

I will let you know the answer to the question that you are afraid to verbalize but have inadvertently demonstrated an accord with. the cure for bad decisions is to reap the consequences of those bad decisions. that is how you learn. good decisions come from experience, experience comes from bad decisions. This is what the law teaches to those who sell themselves into slavery out of poverty and those who are sold by the courts for committing a crime. Once the lesson is learned and a work ethic is gained, the person is free to redeem themselves out of slavery. This is basically what you have prescribed in my case although you have conveyed a more violent tone.
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Yes that would be immoral... but how do you know that people weren't just told that the tribes did these things in order to put them in a bad light, that one passage?
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The land of Canaan was already inhabited by people before the Israelites settled during the
Iron Age (ca. 1200-1000 B.C.E.). There is archaeological evidence that the Canaanites of
the second millennium B.C. practiced the ritual of child sacrifice due to excavations of a shrine
to Baal near the city of Gezer. These excavations have yielded clay jars containing the charred
bones of infants and some older children (refer to picture on the left) (P. Hugues Vincent 188-192). Click on the following images:

passage taken from http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/cou...canaanite.html
Considering the the Canaanites were practicing child sacrifice it would have been immoral for these tribes to be allowed to continue to practice this barbaric custom. Note Genesis 15:13-16
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13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full
These tribes had ample time to repent or flee however those that chose to remain and fight the tribes of Israel were defeated and put into slavery. Some modern day canaanites continue to sacrifice their children by indoctrinating them from birth to hate the jews- - then rejoicing once they blow themselves up. . .
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The land of Canaan was already inhabited by people before the Israelites settled during the
Iron Age (ca. 1200-1000 B.C.E.). There is archaeological evidence that the Canaanites of
the second millennium B.C. practiced the ritual of child sacrifice due to excavations of a shrine
to Baal near the city of Gezer. These excavations have yielded clay jars containing the charred
bones of infants and some older children (refer to picture on the left) (P. Hugues Vincent 188-192). Click on the following images:

passage taken from http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/cou...canaanite.html
Considering the the Canaanites were practicing child sacrifice it would have been immoral for these tribes to be allowed to continue to practice this barbaric custom. Note Genesis 15:13-16
Okay. I'll consider they were in fact practicing child sacrifice, if you will provide me a source that does not say because the Bible says they did... with all due respect to Cornell U, of course.


I considered sschlichter's source of Diodorus' quote, but like I have said, Diodorus is telling something he was told and did not witness people actually performing human sacrifices and I noted that sschlichter left out what was happening to the people when he supposed they were performing human sacrifices.


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13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full
These tribes had ample time to repent or flee however those that chose to remain and fight the tribes of Israel were defeated and put into slavery. Some modern day canaanites continue to sacrifice their children by indoctrinating them from birth to hate the jews- - then rejoicing once they blow themselves up. . .
I see... so what size is your tin foil hat?
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it is interesting how concerned you were over slaves from 3000 years ago but when you have decided that I am in a similar condition,
No. You are saying you are in a similar condition, you aren't, but I am concerned about you.

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you have nothing but piss and vinegar and are assured whatever bad circumstances you feel I am in are of my own making and it is best if I learn my lesson the hard way. doesn't that seem strange to you?
No, it doesn't seem strange, because you have decided it's the only way for you to learn the lesson. Just don't forget what you said about innate knowledge, it applies to a whole wide spectrum of other things that do exist.


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I will let you know the answer to the question that you are afraid to verbalize but have inadvertently demonstrated an accord with. the cure for bad decisions is to reap the consequences of those bad decisions. that is how you learn.
good decisions come from experience, experience comes from bad decisions. This is what the law teaches to those who sell themselves into slavery out of poverty and those who are sold by the courts for committing a crime. Once the lesson is learned and a work ethic is gained, the person is free to redeem themselves out of slavery.
Now that does sound strange to me. Why didn't you just avoid getting into bad situations in the first place?
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This is basically what you have prescribed in my case although you have conveyed a more violent tone.
Meh. You are just taking it out of context. My tone has not been violent. If anything it's somewhat jovial. Did your drill instuctors not use the term of hearing the sound *POP!* that would tell you you're finally getting it?
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Reason tells me that I do not have enough information to fully understand the origins of life on this planet.
Do you beleive there is life on this planet?
Nope. None at all. :Cheeky:

Silly question. Yes, I believe there is life on this planet.
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Reason tells me that I do not have enough information to fully understand the origins of life on this planet.
Why not just make up your own or borrow what you like from what people thousands of years thought?
That sounds like fun. Ok,ummm, I believe that life originated with Papa Smurf (who is, was, and always will be in existence) and he created everything in 7 days.

p.s. I really miss watching the smurfs on tv.
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Why not just make up your own or borrow what you like from what people thousands of years thought?
That sounds like fun. Ok,ummm, I believe that life originated with Papa Smurf (who is, was, and always will be in existence) and he created everything in 7 days.
Lol, seven days? What a loser! My dad did it in 6.66 days... of course he had a bunch of child slaves do most of the work, and a few giants, of course.
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p.s. I really miss watching the smurfs on tv.
I always felt sorry for Gargamel's cat...
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Lol, seven days? What a loser! My dad did it in 6.66 days... of course he had a bunch of child slaves do most of the work, and a few giants, of course.


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Nope. None at all. :Cheeky:

Silly question. Yes, I believe there is life on this planet.
well, which is a bigger miracle to beleive in, that God can intercede by making a man with long hair strong (if he chooses) or that life sprang up out of nothing.
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If you're talking about a person springing up out of nothing, then that's hard to believe. Evolution doesn't claim that of course. If you believe in God, why doesn't he show himself to us regularly?
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