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Old 01-25-2004, 07:47 PM   #51
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It's been 3 days and 3 nights (if you count them like the Jews did of course) since I issued this challenge to Magus. And not a peep out of him, even though he's managed to make 11 posts to other threads.

So we'll have to take that as a "I can't defend my assertions" type of answer.
Or it means I don't feel like wasting my time on you. You won't believe anything I say, so why bother? I don't have anything to prove to you. Your denial of God and the Bible is your problem, not mine.
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Old 01-25-2004, 07:51 PM   #52
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Or it means I don't feel like wasting my time on you. You won't believe anything I say, so why bother?
Please don't take this the wrong way, but not responding in any way is a sign of giving up. And just because one person may not believe you, does that mean that all the members won't?

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I don't have anything to prove to you. Your denial of God and the Bible is your problem, not mine.
Why do you always imply that 'denial' of god and the bible is a bad thing or a 'problem'?
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Old 01-25-2004, 08:09 PM   #53
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Or it means I don't feel like wasting my time on you. You won't believe anything I say, so why bother? I don't have anything to prove to you. Your denial of God and the Bible is your problem, not mine.
The problem with this statement is that you've accumulated well over 3000 posts in just under a year. You seem to enjoy hanging around here and "wasting your time". You do seem to have something to prove, because you constantly show up here and derail threads with your preaching. Then when you're challenged (and usually proved completely wrong), you turn tail and run, only to show up with the same assertions later.

If you didn't care, you wouldn't be posting so much. If you're going to post, then at least do your homework, and be prepared to back up what you claim. If you can't back it up, don't claim it.
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:29 PM   #54
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Kosh: So we'll have to take that as a "I can't defend my assertions" type of answer.

Magus: Or it means I don't feel like wasting my time on you. You won't believe anything I say, so why bother? I don't have anything to prove to you. Your denial of God and the Bible is your problem, not mine.
More like a "here is a mound of fallacy designed to distract from the fact I cannot defend my position" born from the fear that "my faith lacks foundation."

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winstonjen: Why do you always imply that 'denial' of god and the bible is a bad thing or a 'problem'?
because if it is not then he has lost his impetus to live in denial.

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Old 01-27-2004, 03:46 AM   #55
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4. We are NOT guilty for our ancestor’s fault. DUH!

You're right, you're not...

...Sin is passed through the father.
Are you familiar with the term "cognitive dissonance"? It's a mental condition where a person can hold two mutually contradictory views at the same time, and is most commonly associated with the religious.

You really need to sort out what you believe. You are reciting Christian dogma without apparently thinking too much about what you're actually saying.

If you meant to say that a tendency to sin (but not the sin itself) is inherited "through the father", then you need to explain where Adam inherited it from, why God designed us this way, and why the Bible itself contradicts this view (I've given you the link to Are we punished for the sins of others? several times now, but you keep running away).
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Jesus isn't sinless by coincidence. Jesus is sinless because He wasn't born with an earthly father. Sin is passed through the father. Since Jesus' father is God, he never inherited original sin.
But yet sin came into the world through Eve? 1 Timothy 2:14
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