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Old 06-19-2007, 09:06 AM   #1
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Just put the argument on the slippery slope and if Christians at least potentially have the mind of Christ there must be something wrong if God can get headache.
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I see that many of you prefer to go to a Doctor rather than use the Bible's health plan.
Here’s the Bibles health plan. Any questions?



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Just put the argument on the slippery slope and if Christians at least potentially have the mind of Christ there must be something wrong if God can get headache.
Every day’s another day to get it right big boy. If you don't like the ride, don't buy the ticket.
So are you going to tell me now that there are hospitals in heaven but no churches? (Rev.21:22).
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So are you going to tell me now that there are hospitals in heaven but no churches? (Rev.21:22).
A hospital, would have to be hospitable would it not? Heaven would have to be hospitable to be a hospital? Do you think it is possible to make a hospital more hospitable?

Why do you think people show up at hospitals with flowers? Do you think they are sorry? And if they are, for what?

Is there a need for churches in heaven if churches are inhospitable?
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There is forgiveness in heaven, that’s what makes it heaven, it’s hospitable. Of course if you lie that’s what makes it Pentecost, you get your tongue cut off, that’s what makes it hell, that is why there was so much babbling going on, and that is why each heard his own native tongue (his own lie), a fore shadow of things to come, each one teach one, mark of the beast. Of course there’s always churches, perhaps that is why churches are established in hell. Where are the sinners if the sick is in hospitals? For those who do not like churches, can’t understand the ways of God, there’s the law, secularism, they have prisons. Paul was in prison, correct? Something for everyone, including those little Catholics who think, ‘bless me Father for I have sinned...................is a secret.
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So are you going to tell me now that there are hospitals in heaven but no churches? (Rev.21:22).
A hospital, would have to be hospitable would it not? Heaven would have to be hospitable to be a hospital? Do you think it is possible to make a hospital more hospitable?

Why do you think people show up at hospitals with flowers? Do you think they are sorry? And if they are, for what?

Is there a need for churches in heaven if churches are inhospitable?
But there are no Churches heaven and not even the most hospitable ones because churches are just the [possible] way to heaven. Churches are for mortals and heaven is for immortals so how would you want to mortalize immortality if our temporal life is just an extrapolation of eternal life. Like, would you lose your salvation once you are in heaven?
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Forgiveness for what if there is no conscience left?

Agape knowns no guilt without an image or ego to protect. It is just enduring love flowing from the heart of man where the opposites do not exist.
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Here’s the Bibles health plan. Any questions?
Yes. Have you noticed how well dressed the Emperor is in his New Clothes?

What's keeping me from splitting this thread and banishing most of it to E?

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No thanks. I fix broken links to keep the discussion flowing, but I don't see much point to that link or most of this thread.
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As a Christian I believe that all healing comes from God whether it comes through means like doctors and medicines or miraculously.

I have no problem with that, but where was God when you got sick? Is a Christian Godless at times?

My problem is with the definition of the word Christian which ranges from gnostic to agnostic with a wide range of believers in between these two opposites and they included enriched believers such as mystics and impoverished believers such as atheist.
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Forgiveness for what if there is no conscience left?
What makes you think that no conscience, or no sense of moral right/wrong exists in heaven? That there is no need for it does not suggest that it doesn’t exist, but that one has brought right/wrong to full (omni) understanding, ‘why’ it exists. That would be why they call it heaven, correct?

Can the omni-‘s exist in hell? And if so, how so?

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Agape knowns no guilt without an image or ego to protect.
And? Do you have a problem with protecting an image or ego, and if so whose? Do you think it should be slain? And if so which one? Mine? Your’s? Someone else’s? How would we go about that, the slaying that is? Are we each allowed our own image, and if so what would be the purpose of separate images? Combined images?

Without an image, love has nothing to protect, hence no guilt? Which world is that in? The only way one can have no guilt is to have nothing? If they have no guilt what do they have? Iow’s what replaced the guilt, if nothing can’t be conceived to exist?

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It is just enduring love flowing from the heart of man where the opposites do not exist.
If opposites do not exist, what exists, likeness?

Comes from the heart? Where do you think egos arise, if egos desire? Enduring? Sounds painful, hardened. If I put my hand on a hot stove top and it is painful, do you think I should ‘keep’ it there, love the pain all the way, for the lesson it teaches me? If opposites do not exist, does change?

What does it mean to say like attracts like, and or opposites attract? What is forgiveness?

Let’s see, what can I use as an analogy? I don’t like to cook, you don’t like baby peas, baby carrots, baby this, baby that.................... If you lived in my house you wouldn’t have to eat baby peas, baby carrots, baby this or baby that.......lie attracts like, correct.........of course you might starve. Is there a solution to ‘I don’t like to cook, and ‘you don’t like what’s on the menu? ’Yes, we can eat out. I loooooooove to eat out. Of course we now have a bigger problem........eating out costs money. Show me the money!

Now we are getting down to brass tactics, lets separate the men from the boys. Of course at some point we’ll have to get at ‘forgiveness’, but for now..........I think you have something to chew on, fill that tummy.

But then again, maybe I'm wrong, sick? In which case you're gonna help me out correct?
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