Chili

Nice, to 'be lief' is to be willing in Jesus and be a doer of the Word in the transformation of life for which he was send 'below' to his own humanity = human condition [of being] or world) and do his thing there . . . is to get his own ass out of purgatory which is not over until "it is finished" for him, instead of him seen as Galileen and so be on fire in praise and worship for the rest of his or her life. A disciple here is an angel who leads the way via Annunciation to say that it is 'your turn' next in your life so that you may be set free from your circular motion and dukkha by way of converting your own shepherds into apostels that you may go onward in your life and back to Eden you go where life is eternal and there you shall be king in a city of your own.

So here Jesus is a back ground image as heralded from behind the curtain in the sanctuary (veil) where it is sung by the nuns in 'traditional mas' and never within until he appears in your own sanctuary and there is the agent to lead you away to do the same thing (wherefore Jesus cannot be seen because 'he is you' in transition like a quantum train in collision with you but nevertheless is left behind like a dirty rag in the end) . . . and so is why songs of praise to Jesus should never be sung and so already is a sign that hell is alive within.

Chili

Since there is nothing 'super' in the natural except from 'below,' the body of Christ does not pertain to 'substance' itself but our perception of it and for this the mind of Christ is equal to the transformed human mind. In evidence of this consider that science is an extraction from omniscience that is beyond the reach humans except in the extraction of snippets to be tested in the experiment to confirm the 'aha moment' that preceded the test . . . wherefore then it is said to be 'exhillerating' in reward of the major premiss that according to Aristotle is always originative from our own intuition to confirm that the mind of Christ is already within

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/a/aris...poa/book2.html

with and excerpt here from the conclusion in the last paragraph there:

From these considerations it follows that there will be no scientific knowledge of the primary premisses, and since except intuition nothing can be truer than scientific knowledge, it will be intuition that apprehends the primary premisses-a result which also follows from the fact that demonstration cannot be the originative source of demonstration, nor, consequently, scientific knowledge of scientific knowledge.

Interesting here is that exhilleration is like a battery boost in the light of the 'soul-miner' to illuminate the shadows that he can see in his Cave, which so really is the ambition for dummies who need a head-ligth to see while it is emergent in the dream of a woman there as jewels designed to be mined . . . and to which Boethius wrote a tribute in "The Consolation of Philosophy" Book I page I so we cannot miss it on 'opening day.'

Chili

. . . but why do we have to study the author if words that are said to be eternal must speak for themselves to be eternal first?

stephan huller

A better question might be - why do some people feel compelled to post comments into a discussion if they have nothing interesting to say

Horatio Parker

This is what I'm always asking. If Xtian faith won't stand without HJ, then how much faith was really there in the first place. If the Son was and is always there, eternal, what difference does it make if his earthly sojourn was historical? Placing the story in time removes the essential mythical element of timelessness.

Chili

In Catholicism we do not begrudge anybody pleasure and call her Perpetual Virgin so we each can have one of our own. She is the woman in us who presides over our Tree of Life, also known as our soul, and will give to her all that we have and all that is dear to us in safekeeping and we defend her sanctity with all the integrity that we can deliver, and are deeply troubled if and when there is something wrong with our soul . . . and so it can be raped by unwarranted premature exposure when our intregrity yields like a membrane to external pressure and persuasion such as for example an evangelist in action, to be blunt, which so is where the essence of our hymen can be broken in response to their exposure and so can be called rape.

Opposite this is the resignment of Elizabeth in Luke 1:25 upon the reproach now by the Lord, which so is the yielding of us to the call of God [instead of the evangelist] and can be seen as the onset of Advent in life as opposed to the one night stand performance of the organized evangelist yanking away on our membrane until we yield and surrender our integrity and susequently let him do his thing on us = typical one night stand as he takes his money and runs and does not leave a manger behind for us etc. (cf Mt and Mark as opposed to Luke).

. . . and of course they know what they are doing and how to get it done to even the prawling 'two by two's' marauding away on the street, well trained in behavior but with a keen eye for a 'carcass to devour,' as Jesus would say, or was it Paulus who said? Perhaps better said, they know that they are doing but really do not know what they are doing but only know that it works and they earn stripes in heaven to get it done..

Chili

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it is like looking for the ark that our belief may be grounded in evidence as potentially each one of is God as 'son of God' by creation which is something that is not easy to deny (the reign of God is [already] in our midst), wherefore then I call bible reading equal to the rising of bread and the Gutenburg press a giant yeast factory that does much more harm than good among people, especially since 'the bottom line' given is either 'cold or hot' but not lukewarm. So then I ask: what is all this commotion about?

Interesting to add here is that I was born in Catholic country where the pasture was soo big that the sheep could not get lost so all we could do was play coming and going as hither and thither we went like a sheep herded without any cares or worries to be had . . . until I first came to Canada as immigrant where I actually met 'my first' protestant who knew I was a Catholic and asked me if I was a Christian and all I could say was : huh?