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Old 02-24-2006, 10:32 AM   #21
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Ezekiel 20:24-26 implies YHWH punishes by endorsing flaming infant sacrifice
"Because they {the Israelites} had not observed My ordinances, but had rejected My statutes and had profaned My sabbaths, and their eyes were on the idols of their fathers,
I also gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not live;
and I polluted them because of their gifts, in that they caused all their firstborn to pass through the fire so that I might make them desolate, in order that they might know that I am YHWH."
But Jeremiah 19:4-9 says the opposite, absolving YHWH of immolation responsibility - but then...
"Because they {the Israelites} have forsaken Me and have made this an alien place and have burned sacrifices in it to other gods, that neither they nor their forefathers nor the kings of Judah had ever known, and because they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, a thing which I never commanded or spoke of, nor did it ever enter My mind;
"therefore, behold, days are coming," declares YHWH, "when this place will no longer be called Topheth or the valley of Ben-hinnom, but rather the valley of Slaughter. I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place, and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies and by the hand of those who seek their life; and I will give over their carcasses as food for the birds of the sky and the beasts of the earth.
"I will also make this city a desolation and an object of hissing; everyone who passes by it will be astonished and hiss because of all its disasters.
"I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh in the siege and in the distress with which their enemies and those who seek their life will distress them."
..."a thing which I never commanded or spoke of, nor did it ever enter My mind" = DefensiveMuch?
Ezekial got that wrong, t'weren't My responsibility. My People's familial cannibalism before becoming carcasses is the bit I'll cop to.
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Old 02-24-2006, 11:02 AM   #22
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Leviticus 20:16

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Well, there is the numerous times Paul basically justifies the Nazi policy of exterminating all of Jewish descent. But my favorite quote involves atheists. :notworthy:
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1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Yes that is one half of a sentence. God will give atheists teh Gay!
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"There she had longed for her lovers. Their private parts seemed as big as those of donkeys. And their flow of semen appeared to be as much as that of horses." -- Ezekiel 23:20 (NIRV)

This is part of a speech made by God Himself.
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It would be cool if more quotes were found that specifically involve God committing atrocities
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"There she had longed for her lovers. Their private parts seemed as big as those of donkeys. And their flow of semen appeared to be as much as that of horses." -- Ezekiel 23:20 (NIRV)

This is part of a speech made by God Himself.
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I swear I read this somewhere else.... literotica perhaps? :devil1:
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It would be cool if more quotes were found that specifically involve God committing atrocities
And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them. -Jeremiah 19:9

And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel. -Numbers 25:4

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. -Deuteronomy 20:16

So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. -Joshua 10:40

And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon, and slew thirty men of them, and took their spoil, and gave change of garments unto them which expounded the riddle. -Judges 14:19

This is what the LORD says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass... -1 Samuel 15:3

And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses. -2 Kings 19:35

And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. -Ezekiel 9:4-6
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Old 02-25-2006, 07:15 PM   #28
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotton son..."
John 3:16.
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"Who has, to him shall be given; who has not, from him shall be taken the little that he has." (from memory, it is the parable with the talents)
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I don't think anyone has yet mentioned PSALM verses 8 and 9. "O daughter of Babylon you devastator! Happy shall he be who requites you for what you have done to us. HAPPY SHALL HE BE WHO TAKES YOUR LITTLE ONES AND DASHES THEM AGAINST THE ROCK!"

Bible commentators say that this was common practice in warfare at the time, and that the Psalmist was just expressing his desire of like for like. Others try to mute the nastiness by saying that this was just a conventional curse, and in any event the Psalms contain reflect the whole gamut of human emotion. Maybe so, but having read all the Psalms it strikes me that the sentiment that God will judge the Psalmists wicked enemies is all pervasive. And it must be remembered too that these Psalms were not just for private use, but primarily formed part of jewish liturgical practice.
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