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Joan of Bark · 11-07-2007, 05:25 AM

I suspect that only orthodox Jews would recite this prayer today.

andrewcriddle · 11-07-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by John Kesler

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Originally Posted by J-D

Note that this book is one of those described as 'Apocryphal'. The Apocrypha are included in Catholic and Orthodox versions of the Bible, are assigned a different and lower status in Protestant traditions, and are completely unrecognised in Jewish tradition.

If Sirach is "completely unrecognised in Jewish tradition," then why is it, as The Anchor Bible Dictionary states, "quoted approvingly in the Talmud and other rabbinical writings" some 82 times? Why was it included in the Septuagint, a Jewish work, if it is "completely unrecognized in Jewish tradition"? :huh:

IIUC Sirach was excluded from the Jewish canon, despite being found valuable by many rabbis, because it is clearly written in the Hellenistic period, and hence was written too late to be accepted as part of the canon.

Andrew Criddle

RareBird · 11-07-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

hitchens has said on a couple of occasions that jewish men thank god every morning in their prayers that they are not women and that they are not gentiles. is this really true?

Yamulcas cover up the shit stains from having such men's heads far up their asses.

11-07-2007, 02:00 PM

If I believed in a god *I'd* thank it each day for not being a woman. (Love ya sweetheart!)

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