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Old 04-03-2006, 08:17 AM   #31
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If you were to do so, you would list sources, books, journal articles, especially ones dealing with a large majority consensus which you claim.
I never claimed any such "large majority consensus".

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Instead, you have offered up nothing. Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need any education from someone who is entirely uninformed with the source material. Let me ask you a question, Yuri: What specifically about the birth narrative that appears to be an interpolation? Please, in your own words, describe the linguistic pecularities and any external evidence such as church fathers or omission from manuscripts. The emphasis, however, should probably focus on the internal factors, since I can already tell you that the manuscripts won't be of much help.

I'm looking forward to your assessment.

Until then,

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I'm not trying to argue that Mt 1-2 was a later addition. I only wanted to point out that others have argued for this, and thus to fill up some evident gaps in your knowledge.

I'm the skeptic here. You OTOH are just trying to defend the company line, but alas not very effectively...

I found your exercises in circular reasoning quite amusing.

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Old 04-03-2006, 09:18 AM   #32
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Forget 'large majority consensus,' how about some sort of scholarly view along with some evidence? We are now on page two of this thread and you have yet to pony up any evidence in favor of your proposal.

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I'm not trying to argue that Mt 1-2 was a later addition. I only wanted to point out that others have argued for this, and thus to fill up some evident gaps in your knowledge.
If you are not proposing that Mt 1-2 is a later addition, then what is the point of this excursis? As for other people arguing it, do you really think that being on IIDB for these years and my studies in Matthew that I really would not have heard this argument before?

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I'm the skeptic here. You OTOH are just trying to defend the company line, but alas not very effectively...
Oh please, Yuri. Yuri the Hero and Chris the Reactionary, right? How about we quit with the personal attacks and start focusing on the evidence. Whenever you're ready, of course.

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Circular logic? Please demonstrate.
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Oh please, Yuri. Yuri the Hero and Chris the Reactionary, right? How about we quit with the personal attacks and start focusing on the evidence. Whenever you're ready, of course.


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Chris take a step back, this is not a personal attack...on the other your name calling probably is.

Take a step back and have a laugh at yourself.
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Chris take a step back, this is not a personal attack...on the other your name calling probably is.

Take a step back and have a laugh at yourself.
Yuri quite clearly made it personal when he introduced himself as the skeptic, and me as the bumbling toe-liner. Yet he hasn't even brought any evidence to the table, nor has he even named one name, despite my and others' asking him to.
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As for other people arguing it, do you really think that being on IIDB for these years and my studies in Matthew that I really would not have heard this argument before?
Oh, great, so you've already heard this argument before... So then I guess there's no need for me to tell you who has made this argument before.

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Circular logic? Please demonstrate.
Just look up earlier in this thread.

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Judge to Chris:
Take a step back and have a laugh at yourself.

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Yuri quite clearly made it personal when he introduced himself as the skeptic, and me as the bumbling toe-liner.
I didn't say "bumbling toe-liner".

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Yet he hasn't even brought any evidence to the table, nor has he even named one name, despite my and others' asking him to.
But I thought you already know this stuff? You should really make up your mind about this Chris! Or else, I'll be forced to describe you as... "bumbling"!

Besides, you've described me earlier in this thread as "someone who is entirely uninformed with the source material"... And now you want my help?

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Besides, you've described me earlier in this thread as "someone who is entirely uninformed with the source material"... And now you want my help?
As a disinterested third party, I know I'd love to see anything of substance from you in this thread.
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As a disinterested third party, I know I'd love to see anything of substance from you in this thread.
Yeah, me too. We see a lot of song and dance but, as of yet, not one single shred of anything even remotely approaching some semblance of what might be termed evidence.

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As a disinterested third party, I know I'd love to see anything of substance from you in this thread.
I guess you don't expect "anything of substance" from Mr. Weimer anymore?

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